And the latest from DeSantis. He wants schools in Florida to teach kids that slavery benefitted blacks since they acquired skills laboring in the fields. No further comment needed.
And the latest from DeSantis. He wants schools in Florida to teach kids that slavery benefitted blacks since they acquired skills laboring in the fields. No further comment needed.
I cannot believe how god-awful DeS is. A true fascist. The funny thing is he really thinks the rest of the country envies Florida. Good luck with that.
тАЬYes, kids, first the slaveholders gave Black people a free trip to the USA, all expenses paid including food and entertainment, then they gave them exciting new jobs with free room and board for them and their entire families!тАЭ
Actually, the latest is that he is targeting InBev, Bud Light's corporate ownership, for state-level prosecution/persecution for Woke! behavior. Any other governor might be more interested in, say, addressing the severe problems with insurance that are facing the people of the state, among other issues of everyday importance to the typical taxpayer. It takes a lot for me to feel any sympathy for Budweiser, but somehow DeSantis is pulling it off. Such is the power of a high-profile fool who is hell-bent on being foolish for all the world to see.
One needs to ask oneself who is suffering from the boycott of Bud light? Blue collar workers make up the bulk of the distributor and wholesaler workers InBev employs. These nut jobs are cutting off their noses to spite their faces.
Isn't it ever thus? This makes me think of the Catholic writer, Matthew Fox. He was dismissed from his order for promulgating ideas of "original blessing" instead of the orthodoxy of "original sin" and left the Church to be an Episcopalian. His departure made him a celebrity among liberal Catholics.
Such is the power of tribalism in general and the Woke! movement specifically, that they would harm themselves substantively in order to inflict pain on their enemy. In another time and place we called that mutually assured destruction.
This is something I understand but don't understand. I understand that DeSantis doesn't care one bit about what happens in Florida because he's planning on moving to the District of Columbia next year and what happens in Florida won't matter anymore.
What I don't understand is why Floridians put up with it. It's so transparent. The state has a huge hospitality industry that is getting ripped on by the governor every day. Businesses like beverage distributors and whatnot depend on lots of people coming to Florida in large numbers. Small changes could make a huge difference for them.
TheyтАЩre like a frog in a boiling pot of water, they donтАЩt scream until itтАЩs too late. Although, I heard the frog does jump out of the pot, so the analogy is false; yet, not so much for the MAGA cult in Florida.
Yes, Gore lost FL because of Nader. Nader won 97K votes and Gore lost to GWB by 537 votes. I can't do math in my head. What percentage of 97K is 537? Gore would have won FL and the presidency had Nader not run.
Part of it was DeSantis ordering the arrest of Black folks for тАЬvoting illegallyтАЭ (even though the arrested had been told by officials that it was legal for them to vote). The detainees were set free soon after their arrest, but the on camera perp walks of Black voters in handcuffs did two things: it frightened a lot of the Black population out of participating in the 2022 election, and it тАЬowned the libsтАЭ with its blatant racism.
That whole "voting task force" thing ... I don't understand why the Florida or national press hasn't made a bigger deal out of that.
"Governor, you've said that Florida elections are shot through with fraud and illegal voting. Your task force has yet to identify more than a few cases and they've all been Republicans voting illegally for Trump. Since fraud in this state is so obvious and widespread, why have you not been able to convict these people?"
Volumes can be (and have been) written about this.
I think a lot of people underestimate the power of "owning the libs." It's tangible. They can see the libs cry on TV. Today. The impact of all these policy changes? It's going to take a while to see the real impact of those things.
See I don't get that. I don't watch that many popular shows but all the "news" shows, even CNN, seem pretty much right wing, or at least they report on the right as if they were normal politicians.
Well, to be fair the insurance company actuaries have indeed awakened to the fact that their employers are losing boatloads of money writing polices in Florida and are fully on track to escalate to shitloads of money if they continue to maintain a presence there.
And you know what happens if private insurers leave the market? Hello, Washington, D.C.? My house is under water, my car fell into a sinkhole, my crops burned to a crisp. Please send taxpayer monies to this bank account and God bless you.
Right. Funny how quickly conservatives toss out their small government ideas when it's emergency time. Same with all the law and order talk about holding criminals to account. Turns out when it applies to their side it's all just that, talk.
Apparently Florida's cfo is too incompetent to understand that it is about the one thing that everyone else readily can see: money. Excessive costs = change in direction. Business 101. Unless drag queens have more to do with increasingly frequent and more destructive hurricanes than, say, climate change.
Money, yes. And this fact that is not convenient to their woke narrative: Insurers are leaving CA too, where, in the words of today's "Morning Dispatch", woke goes to thrive.
Well, given the back-to-ye-olden-times bent of Floridians led by Desantis, drag queens make God angry, and therefore He visits destruction on everyone. QED.
This makes me think of a wonderful tweet I saw a while back. It was a response to a Kari Lake tweet. She said, "God is in control, always". The response said, "Yeah, that's why you lost."ЁЯШВ
More Dems need to learn how to use the R's nonsense against them.
Speaking of DeSantis, I'm puzzled at the lack of commentary on his new "Florida Guard." That's "Florida National Guard" without the "National." DeSantis says it's being put in place to "help" during emergencies like hurricanes. However, dropouts from the program say it's basically a militia and training is similar to military boot camp.
Maybe I missed a tweet? I'm not on Twitter much and haven't tweeted for a few years now.
Dunno about y'all but when a governor starts building a private army I begin to worry about the Southern Border...of North Carolina.
DonтАЩt worry, he has two more years before heтАЩs kicked out. He can only serve two terms consecutively, although, he owns the legislature, so he may change the law....:)
Oh thatтАЩs the new Republican way: if you canтАЩt beat тАШem, change the laws. Whether itтАЩs putting propositions before the people to vote on or restricting voting rights, Republicans want to change the rules when it doesnтАЩt suit them.
Well-to-do old people from the Midwest (have some in my family) want to live there. They'll be gone by the time FL sinks into the ocean. As long as their taxes are low, they are FREE!
Yes, I understand the 6 months +1. It's a tax strategy: Pay the least tax while getting the most benefits. That is absolute individualism with no regard for what their actions and choices to do the larger community like public education in FL.
I was in the Midwest last week and I observed my two sisters, both widows, who are Dems, and they watch a lot of TV. They're home alone. I don't blame them. But, I realized that news on TV is full of bad news, because it sells. It's interesting. It's drama.
Fortunately they both have children, grandchildren and friends and parishes close by, AKA, the real world. But cable news fills in a lot of the gaps for old people.
Reminds me of a decision my son made when he was offered a job in Charleston. It would have been a cushy assignment and Charleston is considered a great place to live.
I asked him why he turned it down he said that although Charleston is fine but if you drive ten miles west тАЬitтАЩs still South Carolina.тАЭ
Biggest and best flameout since Scott Walker 2016. They suffer the same fate because they are equally flawed both as people and as politicians, once one actually stops to take a close look at them and see what they really represent. So much hype and so little substance for such small men and such small minds.
The part thatтАЩs so crazy is that sheтАЩs all for keeping porn out of our schools, yet here she is printing and showing everyone! She does know that teachers often use C-SPAN for school, or is she really that stupid??
Slavery was a precursor to rent control, and at worst, plantations were just another form of sanctuary city. (I hope people realize these comments are meant to be bitter.)
In a David Attenborough voiceтАж тАЬIreland, in ancient times, was an advanced civilization. Hover cars, moving sidewalks. Then Irish scientists discovered whiskey, destroying the civilization and pushing the population into poverty, famine and unwinnable wars. Through sustained outreach by the English, the Irish finally took responsibility for their plight and emigrated to America where their culture was corrected and, some believe, they became productive citizens.
Funny! But I hear Diane Morgan's voice on "Cunk on Earth" -- total deadpan voice discussing the most absurd theories of history, anthropology, and archeology.
And the latest from DeSantis. He wants schools in Florida to teach kids that slavery benefitted blacks since they acquired skills laboring in the fields. No further comment needed.
I cannot believe how god-awful DeS is. A true fascist. The funny thing is he really thinks the rest of the country envies Florida. Good luck with that.
Do you have a source for that?
ItтАЩs being widely reported on main news sources, but I just left you several links, further up the thread.
Yikes!
тАЬYes, kids, first the slaveholders gave Black people a free trip to the USA, all expenses paid including food and entertainment, then they gave them exciting new jobs with free room and board for them and their entire families!тАЭ
Did he really say that!?
Nope. I'm just spoofing the whole concept of the тАЬslavery wasnтАЩt so badтАЭ idiots. Sorry about that: I should have put in the /s tag.
ItтАЩs rather telling that it totally is believable to think he could say that.
The FL bd of Ed published final Black history standards that called for teaching that slavery had benefits to the enslaved, among other things.
https://wapo.st/3Q5SIeG
From a local news station:
https://youtu.be/ybKzoI5EBVI
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/floridas-new-education-standards-says-slavery-had-personal-benefits/
Can you send me a link on tht? Would appreaciate it.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/new-florida-standards-teach-black-people-benefited-slavery-taught-usef-rcna95418
Thx!
So embarrassing.
Slavery? What slavery? This is trade school...
Actually, the latest is that he is targeting InBev, Bud Light's corporate ownership, for state-level prosecution/persecution for Woke! behavior. Any other governor might be more interested in, say, addressing the severe problems with insurance that are facing the people of the state, among other issues of everyday importance to the typical taxpayer. It takes a lot for me to feel any sympathy for Budweiser, but somehow DeSantis is pulling it off. Such is the power of a high-profile fool who is hell-bent on being foolish for all the world to see.
One needs to ask oneself who is suffering from the boycott of Bud light? Blue collar workers make up the bulk of the distributor and wholesaler workers InBev employs. These nut jobs are cutting off their noses to spite their faces.
All in a days work...:)
Isn't it ever thus? This makes me think of the Catholic writer, Matthew Fox. He was dismissed from his order for promulgating ideas of "original blessing" instead of the orthodoxy of "original sin" and left the Church to be an Episcopalian. His departure made him a celebrity among liberal Catholics.
Such is the power of tribalism in general and the Woke! movement specifically, that they would harm themselves substantively in order to inflict pain on their enemy. In another time and place we called that mutually assured destruction.
This is something I understand but don't understand. I understand that DeSantis doesn't care one bit about what happens in Florida because he's planning on moving to the District of Columbia next year and what happens in Florida won't matter anymore.
What I don't understand is why Floridians put up with it. It's so transparent. The state has a huge hospitality industry that is getting ripped on by the governor every day. Businesses like beverage distributors and whatnot depend on lots of people coming to Florida in large numbers. Small changes could make a huge difference for them.
Why are they still all gaga for this guy?
Agree. It's not really something you see in Republican pols, going after big business.
"There's something strange at work here. Some evil gives speed to these creatures, sets its will against us." - Aragorn
TheyтАЩre like a frog in a boiling pot of water, they donтАЩt scream until itтАЩs too late. Although, I heard the frog does jump out of the pot, so the analogy is false; yet, not so much for the MAGA cult in Florida.
I should know, I live in Miami....:)
What amazes me is that gore won Florida in 2000: what has changed so much in the voter demographics?
Didn't Gore lose in FL due to Ralph Nadar?
I always thought with so many retired New Yorkers FL would be a blue state.
Yes, Gore lost FL because of Nader. Nader won 97K votes and Gore lost to GWB by 537 votes. I can't do math in my head. What percentage of 97K is 537? Gore would have won FL and the presidency had Nader not run.
Part of it was DeSantis ordering the arrest of Black folks for тАЬvoting illegallyтАЭ (even though the arrested had been told by officials that it was legal for them to vote). The detainees were set free soon after their arrest, but the on camera perp walks of Black voters in handcuffs did two things: it frightened a lot of the Black population out of participating in the 2022 election, and it тАЬowned the libsтАЭ with its blatant racism.
That whole "voting task force" thing ... I don't understand why the Florida or national press hasn't made a bigger deal out of that.
"Governor, you've said that Florida elections are shot through with fraud and illegal voting. Your task force has yet to identify more than a few cases and they've all been Republicans voting illegally for Trump. Since fraud in this state is so obvious and widespread, why have you not been able to convict these people?"
Great question!!!!
Biden won our district in 2020, and then voted in Ana Paulina Luna in 2022. We're not known as "Florida: The #1 state for mental health!"
So much of politics is deep psychology. Why exactly are Trump and Desantis so popular?
I think the problem lies in your first premise.
Volumes can be (and have been) written about this.
I think a lot of people underestimate the power of "owning the libs." It's tangible. They can see the libs cry on TV. Today. The impact of all these policy changes? It's going to take a while to see the real impact of those things.
See I don't get that. I don't watch that many popular shows but all the "news" shows, even CNN, seem pretty much right wing, or at least they report on the right as if they were normal politicians.
What a high price for everyone else to pay for the immature emotional satisfaction of Schadenfreude.
Florida's cfo is already blaming insurance departure on "wokeness."
Well, to be fair the insurance company actuaries have indeed awakened to the fact that their employers are losing boatloads of money writing polices in Florida and are fully on track to escalate to shitloads of money if they continue to maintain a presence there.
And you know what happens if private insurers leave the market? Hello, Washington, D.C.? My house is under water, my car fell into a sinkhole, my crops burned to a crisp. Please send taxpayer monies to this bank account and God bless you.
Right. Funny how quickly conservatives toss out their small government ideas when it's emergency time. Same with all the law and order talk about holding criminals to account. Turns out when it applies to their side it's all just that, talk.
Apparently Florida's cfo is too incompetent to understand that it is about the one thing that everyone else readily can see: money. Excessive costs = change in direction. Business 101. Unless drag queens have more to do with increasingly frequent and more destructive hurricanes than, say, climate change.
Money, yes. And this fact that is not convenient to their woke narrative: Insurers are leaving CA too, where, in the words of today's "Morning Dispatch", woke goes to thrive.
Well, given the back-to-ye-olden-times bent of Floridians led by Desantis, drag queens make God angry, and therefore He visits destruction on everyone. QED.
This makes me think of a wonderful tweet I saw a while back. It was a response to a Kari Lake tweet. She said, "God is in control, always". The response said, "Yeah, that's why you lost."ЁЯШВ
More Dems need to learn how to use the R's nonsense against them.
Speaking of DeSantis, I'm puzzled at the lack of commentary on his new "Florida Guard." That's "Florida National Guard" without the "National." DeSantis says it's being put in place to "help" during emergencies like hurricanes. However, dropouts from the program say it's basically a militia and training is similar to military boot camp.
Maybe I missed a tweet? I'm not on Twitter much and haven't tweeted for a few years now.
Dunno about y'all but when a governor starts building a private army I begin to worry about the Southern Border...of North Carolina.
Scary that his folowers and he wants his own army. Do they, by any chance, wear brown shirts?
Actually...
https://www.miamiherald.com/latest-news/b6iiv/picture277246743/alternates/FREE_1140/7863564.jpg
More tan, but stillтАжЁЯШ│
DonтАЩt worry, he has two more years before heтАЩs kicked out. He can only serve two terms consecutively, although, he owns the legislature, so he may change the law....:)
Oh thatтАЩs the new Republican way: if you canтАЩt beat тАШem, change the laws. Whether itтАЩs putting propositions before the people to vote on or restricting voting rights, Republicans want to change the rules when it doesnтАЩt suit them.
Well said.
Well-to-do old people from the Midwest (have some in my family) want to live there. They'll be gone by the time FL sinks into the ocean. As long as their taxes are low, they are FREE!
Yes, I understand the 6 months +1. It's a tax strategy: Pay the least tax while getting the most benefits. That is absolute individualism with no regard for what their actions and choices to do the larger community like public education in FL.
I was in the Midwest last week and I observed my two sisters, both widows, who are Dems, and they watch a lot of TV. They're home alone. I don't blame them. But, I realized that news on TV is full of bad news, because it sells. It's interesting. It's drama.
Fortunately they both have children, grandchildren and friends and parishes close by, AKA, the real world. But cable news fills in a lot of the gaps for old people.
Reminds me of a decision my son made when he was offered a job in Charleston. It would have been a cushy assignment and Charleston is considered a great place to live.
I asked him why he turned it down he said that although Charleston is fine but if you drive ten miles west тАЬitтАЩs still South Carolina.тАЭ
DeSantis just keeps digging Florida into a hole of complete idiocy. No wonder thereтАЩs never been a president from Florida.
Yup. And just when you think that he canтАЩt dig any deeper, he surprises you. This campaign should be taught as an example of what not to do.
I am delighted that he is sinking fast. It is richly deserved.
Me too.
Biggest and best flameout since Scott Walker 2016. They suffer the same fate because they are equally flawed both as people and as politicians, once one actually stops to take a close look at them and see what they really represent. So much hype and so little substance for such small men and such small minds.
One doesn't need much of a 'close look'. Both of them are an exemplary embodiment of mendacity and corruption.
You failed to mention anything about their hand size. The Donald wouldn't have made that mistake.
From hand size to dic picks. Look where we are.
The part thatтАЩs so crazy is that sheтАЩs all for keeping porn out of our schools, yet here she is printing and showing everyone! She does know that teachers often use C-SPAN for school, or is she really that stupid??
SheтАЩs really that stupid.
Agree.
Yeah. But as long as I don't have to look at the pics I guess I can soldier on for a while.
Slavery was a precursor to rent control, and at worst, plantations were just another form of sanctuary city. (I hope people realize these comments are meant to be bitter.)
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"Drunk History" writers, are you listening?
In a David Attenborough voiceтАж тАЬIreland, in ancient times, was an advanced civilization. Hover cars, moving sidewalks. Then Irish scientists discovered whiskey, destroying the civilization and pushing the population into poverty, famine and unwinnable wars. Through sustained outreach by the English, the Irish finally took responsibility for their plight and emigrated to America where their culture was corrected and, some believe, they became productive citizens.
I'm of Irish descent and know the history. This is making me nauseous.
And like the Scots and English didn't have whiskey! How ignorant do you have to be to buy such propaganda?
Funny! But I hear Diane Morgan's voice on "Cunk on Earth" -- total deadpan voice discussing the most absurd theories of history, anthropology, and archeology.
Lucky them
The opportunities are endless.