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Ann-Marie Gardner's avatar

I can say that I will vote for a potted plant over Trump and still be angry when the dems take me up on it.

My assessment of Biden is that he is doing okay as president, but can’t possibly complete another term. Or run a convincing campaign. I hear everyone saying, it shouldn’t matter if he’s barely competent as long as he’s running against one of the worst people in the world. And yes, when it comes to the binary choice, I will cast my meaningless blue state vote for him. Probably.

BUT, it is so irresponsible to nominate a man who can’t do a four-year term. What kind of 25th amendment-watch grind are we getting into? Contrast that with how refreshing it would be to have candidates under 60. Gah!

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suzc's avatar

I love your first sentence and agree totally. I share your angst but I'm getting over it. I'm Ridin' with Biden until Joe says No Go. Because that's the hand we are currently dealt and I don't think it's useful to continue to spit on it and worse. (There is always risk involved. But there is no CLEAR alternative other than Kamala and I'm not sure she is ready for the onslaught of the campaign -- and this is about who can win, not who can govern. I think we get behind Joe until he drops.)

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DBinSF's avatar

SHE IS READY

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MAP's avatar

What do you mean by run a successful campaign? Do you understand it is not just Joe alone? There is a whole staff, including thousands of organizers and volunteers nationwide working with state and local Dem parties. They have been working hard calling thousands of people and knocking thousands of doors, hosting events, etc. Joe has been on the stump more than a dozen times while you know, running the country since the debate. So this idea that he isn’t up to campaigning—where on earth is that coming from?

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Ann-Marie Gardner's avatar

Three quarters of the country thinks he’s too old. We aren’t just looking at the number. We are looking at his public performances and the news about his private actions.

It’s not enough to say he’s better than the general election alternative, now I have to say he’s a strong campaigner?

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Bridget Collins's avatar

Three quarters of the chattering class is looking for something to drive traffic.

Biden raised more money in June than Trump with a lot of that coming at the end of the month. After the debate.

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Bridget Collins's avatar

His mother was active into her 90s.

He travelled to Europe multiple times in June. He flies over the country for events in June.

His debate against other Democrats in 2020 went badly as well. (Do you remember how he looked when Kamala went after him?)

But here we are after a very successful first term discovering he doesn't debate well.

The youngest president we had in the 20th century was dead before his re-election campaign had even started. The oldest one got re-elected.

Here's a question. If you get a chance to invest with Warren Buffett, do you say no, he's too old?

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Linda Malboeuf's avatar

Not the same

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Bridget Collins's avatar

Warren Buffett is 93. And still running one of the most successful investment companies in the world.

So why is that not an apt comparison?

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RustBelttoBeerBelt's avatar

Because one has neurodegenerative disease affecting his hippocampus and basal ganglia and the other doesn’t.

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Bridget Collins's avatar

Do you have any proof for that claim?

I mean besides "your brother-in-law knows someone whose neighbor is a doctor and he says. . ."

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RustBelttoBeerBelt's avatar

No proof but I’m a practicing neurologist with four active board certifications. All of my neurology colleagues at my academic institution have grave concerns regarding his Parkinsonian features, paraphasic errors, and anterograde memory formation issues.

You sound like a climate change denier arguing with a climatologist.

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Bridget Collins's avatar

Interesting.

Does your state licensing authority know that you’re expressing medical opinions about people you have neither examined nor been consulted on?

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Danielle NJ's avatar

And a younger candidate gives voters transparency: we would be voting for a person we are hearing consistently. Harris events are not getting the coverage needed to update public perception yet we all know in status quo either she is leader or shadow government...not different than Trump's Project 2025.

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