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Roadkill Centrist's avatar

I’d just point out that it’s a bit of a misnomer to use terms like “trans movement”, as if it were some kind of monolithic hive mind. Like those pushing the narrative from the right, often the left-most edge of the trans community garners the lions share of coverage, re: athletics and classroom awareness.

I have trans friends who agree that - especially with male-to-female transition - the impact on competitive athletics needs to be discussed. It seems pretty clear that in the Lia Thomas case, for example, 20 years of testosterone benefit was not mitigated by 18 mos of HRT and, imo, everyone involved suffered from the NCAA not having a thought-out policy and that vocal element of the community making such conversations challenging.

That said, I find the idea that it’s the end of sport and/or society if a 9yo trans-identifying child plays community sports with their identified gender ridiculous.

It’s all valid to discuss without, you know, stepping on the rights of parents of a hyper-minority of children who are trying their best for their kids along with their doctors.

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Tom's avatar

I’m sure there is disagreement among people in the trans movement. I’m just saying it’s disingenuous to pretend that the movement/policy agenda doesn’t exist at all. That trans-people just want to exist and not be discriminated against, which is not true. It’s like when liberals say “LGBTQ+” as if those groups are all the same and all want the same thing from society, when in reality sexual orientation issues and gender issues are very different.

Regarding kids sports, I mean sure, and with regards to community sports leagues, even for adults, I personally don’t care if trans people are allowed to play. I just don’t think they should be allowed in competitive sports like High School, College, Professional, etc..

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No Sympathy, No Charity's avatar

Considering the fact that there are broad efforts to “other” transgender youth and adults in this country, it’s not the trans community that has an agenda.

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Roadkill Centrist's avatar

I guess what I’m saying is: I personally have not seen/heard of a transgender agenda calling for the teaching of transgenderism in grade schools etc; I HAVE witnessed anti-trans groups promote and pass laws saying no trans person, age notwithstanding, should be able to get the healthcare they and their doctors have determined is necessary.

As someone who originally came from a fairly stark pro-life background, I do not see any comparable moral imperative one could argue makes keeping a grown ass adult - as patient or parent - from pursuing such care. YMMV.

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