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🐝 BusyBusyBee 🐝's avatar

Sarah’s takes on anything to do with Donald are clouded by something that obscures her legal mind from the politics of it all. I can’t even listen to Advisory Opinions. And don’t get me started on her new newsletter.

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Tim's avatar

Sarah can be tough to take at times, maybe most times. I will say that she has been on point in describing Trump's "crime-ing" in the M-L docs. On J6 charges, she is taking the point of view that behavior was abhorrent but not criminal. Maybe there isn't a clear statute on fraudulently inserting fake electors, but to me this is as bad as it gets.

I wouldn't completely throw out the Dispatch baby with the bath water. Hayes and Goldberg have been consistent in their Trump outrage for years and continue to express it. If I had to be in a one-dimensional eco-chamber it would be the Remnant. The Dispatch does help me walk around the issues and kick the tires.

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Migs's avatar

My only response is that Hayes and Goldberg stuck around fox for a longtime though (they didn’t leave until after Tucker made that ridiculous “documentary” about j6).

Also, has sarah actually practiced law for any amount of time? I can’t find what law firms or government work (other than in pr or a political role) she has had other than as a clerk. She comments on law like 25 year doj vet though

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Tim's avatar

Hi Migs, wasn't sure what you meant about Hayes and Goldberg sticking around? Did you mean before they punched out of Fox? Think that was a pretty long time ago.

Don't know Sarah Isgur's bio. Here is the Wiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Isgur

She does have that often wrong but always certain approach.

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Migs's avatar

Yeah I was talking about Hayes and Goldberg sticking around at fox. He left nov 2021. He wrote an article on why he left. It was somewhat interesting in that they specifically brought him and hayes on never to comment on trump (bc fox was pro trump) but to bash democrat ideas/plans. Pretty interesting right rope for them to walk

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Meghan R's avatar

I would agree. She's been very strong on the M-L docs case and has said several times that it's an extremely strong case. This is subject to opinion, but one of her points is she feels the M-L docs case is stronger than the J6 case.

I like the Dispatch overall. It's different than the Bulwark but I do enjoy it. Steve Hayes blew up DeSantis last week over his RFK comments which was great and much needed!

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Linda Oliver's avatar

The Dispatch’s anti-Trumpism seems too wan for my tastes. I like the more joyfully emphatic Bulwark.

Perhaps, just as Nixon gave us the Presidential Records Act (which does NOT mean a President can keep any damn thing he wants to on his way out the door), we will get statutes forbidding fake electors, and ensuring that losing all arguments in all courts is definitively final in election challenges.

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Edward's avatar

Yeah I ended my Dispatch subscription when David French left.

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Mary's avatar

Same

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mel ladi's avatar

Hey, that’s exactly when I dropped my subscription. I only joined because of David (in particular his Sunday French Press) and now I can get that in my sub to the NYT.

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🐝 BusyBusyBee 🐝's avatar

I also signed up because of David and love reading him over at the NYT. I like Nick’s column on most days but he def falls into ruts. My sub ends in November and I will not be renewing either. Although, if Trump wins the nomination - as looks likely - it might be an interesting time over there watching them twist themselves into knots. 😆

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Edward's avatar

The other thing I noticed with The Dispatch is that their comments section is much less fun and congenial compared to here. Say anything outside NR/conservative orthodoxy in response to one of Jonah’s columns and the mad dogs come a’runnin.

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Oldandintheway's avatar

That really is the problem. The mad dogs are not going away. They have been unlashed and they are foaming at the mouth. It is unclear how many there are, anywhere from 15 to 35 % of Americans. But they display a combination of "don't know," and "don't care." That applies to democracy, the economy, the war, global warming, fake news, human rights of all kinds, and living in a sane society. Their fun is in the power of cruelty and destruction. Trump and social media have given them a voice and a cover. They are also well funded, whether they know it or not, by a bunch of greedy billionaires.

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mollymoe222's avatar

I follow Jonah on Twitter (I frequently disagree with him, but admire that he is willing to go against the grain), and my strong impression is that he is an anti-Trumper.. I don’t know about the rest of the staff, though.

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Lee B.'s avatar

I think anti-anti is too far, but they certainly are too infected with Long NR, though I do see green shoots periodically

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🐝 BusyBusyBee 🐝's avatar

Lol. Oh yes, my dear, the libertarian is quite strong over there. From Scott to Kevin to Jonah there is no getting away from it. I appreciate some takes (I live in New England and love when Scott rails against the Jones Act (all ships carrying cargo between US ports must be US built and crewed. Unfortunately, there’s are zero LNG tankers to travel between US ports so we buy all the gas that we can’t squeeze through our meager pipelines on the open market - in times past, even from the Russians - which is contributing to higher winter heating prices for us). But aside from that, I find it all very painful sometimes.

Although they do have some awesome MAGAs that comment over there. Getting the pulse of that crowd is always a good thing to keep tabs on and I must admit that their comments sections make that task very easy - especially now that Twitt…, errr, X is such a useless pile of crap for doing any research these days.

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Eva Seifert's avatar

The Jones Act was supposed to protect American shipping and encourage it back in 1920. It has turned into an albatross that now hurts American shipping and needs to go.

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BlueOntario's avatar

It needs to be fixed, but not thrown out. One word, "Reforger."

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redlineblue's avatar

Bless your heart.

Signed,

American Trucking Association

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knowltok's avatar

I went through history and counted up all the Communist Utopias and all the Randian Utopias and came up with a statistical tie.

I do not have degrees in poli-sci, anthropology, sociology, history, or anything else remotely relevant, so make of that what you will.

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Edward's avatar

It's the zombie conservatism and inability to change with the times that drove me insane. For example, they would find this to be heretical: https://www.bostonreview.net/articles/how-misreading-adam-smith-helped-spawn-deaths-of-despair/

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mel ladi's avatar

Great article. Thanks for sharing. It does a very credible job of talking about free markets and healthcare.

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