I have argued with MAGAs ever since 1/6 about her. For the life of me, I cannot understand how they can't understand that, of course, deadly force was authorized and every single person in the chamber was in fear for their lives. Secondly, no matter how much you bring it up, they simply don't care that somehow she found herself attempting to enter a room in our Capital through a bashed out window near a barricaded door with armed police shouting for no one to attempt to enter.
It has to be a cult. Like brainwashed minions...they now simply say that Ashli Babbitt was the only person's fate that mattered above everything else that happened that day. What????
The MAGA rank and file seem to be short on critical faculties. Top-tier MAGA apologists do have critical faculties, but their ideological agenda - or what they claim to be a higher truth - takes precedence over accepting demonstrable facts.
When I saw "the intellectual case for Trump" and suchlike emerging, I recognized a kind of reverse intellectual snobbery at work. People smart enough to be able to recognize that Trump is ignorant and stupid, as well as aggressively selfish and amoral, pour great energy into sanewashing and sanitizing his words and deeds, as they fancy themselves to be wiser and more perceptive (and more deeply moral) than all his critics, and therefore able to see the virtue and genius that others fail to understand.
That's so spot on. Exploring how a MAGA thinks...is a little like watching a trainwreck that you can see coming. It's enthralling, you see the disaster heading our way, but you can't really do much about it because the forces at play seem greater than you alone can resist.
There are so many curious (to me anyway) aspects of this. 1) Our ability to see that if Obama or Hilary did or said what Trump does...they would be 180 degrees out from what they let Trump get away with 2) Perhaps more importantly....they cannot seem to see this in themselves 3) They accuse of us doing the very same thing without realizing the irony
I'll tell you straight up....that if Obama, Harris or Biden claimed they could lower or have lowered prices by 1500%...I would IMMEDIATELY question their intelligence, competence and skillset for handling the job of POTUS. If they claimed it twice (like Trump has) on completely separate occasions...then I would question the people they've surrounded themselves by who didn't feedback to them that what they're claiming is impossible.
I mean that...and I'm sure you feel the same way. I tried this argument with a MAGA friend of mine...and they simply ignore it and probably claim I'm "just saying that for the sake of winning an argument"
It's both fascinating and horrifying at the same time.
TheyтАЩre like the Brownshirts who used to sing тАЬWe donтАЩt need Jesus/ we have Horst Wessel.тАЭ They donтАЩt need Jesus: they have Ashli Babbit dying for Dear Leader.
Five will get you ten that one of the fringe film companies will bring out a biographical movie of BabbitтАЩs life, starring a blonde bombshell dying in the hallway as the pieta de resistance.
Those MAGA freaks support the excessive use of deadly force when the victim is a protester of GOP or conservative issues. Hypocrites all, they are the internal enemy.
I have argued with MAGAs ever since 1/6 about her. For the life of me, I cannot understand how they can't understand that, of course, deadly force was authorized and every single person in the chamber was in fear for their lives. Secondly, no matter how much you bring it up, they simply don't care that somehow she found herself attempting to enter a room in our Capital through a bashed out window near a barricaded door with armed police shouting for no one to attempt to enter.
It has to be a cult. Like brainwashed minions...they now simply say that Ashli Babbitt was the only person's fate that mattered above everything else that happened that day. What????
The MAGA rank and file seem to be short on critical faculties. Top-tier MAGA apologists do have critical faculties, but their ideological agenda - or what they claim to be a higher truth - takes precedence over accepting demonstrable facts.
When I saw "the intellectual case for Trump" and suchlike emerging, I recognized a kind of reverse intellectual snobbery at work. People smart enough to be able to recognize that Trump is ignorant and stupid, as well as aggressively selfish and amoral, pour great energy into sanewashing and sanitizing his words and deeds, as they fancy themselves to be wiser and more perceptive (and more deeply moral) than all his critics, and therefore able to see the virtue and genius that others fail to understand.
That's so spot on. Exploring how a MAGA thinks...is a little like watching a trainwreck that you can see coming. It's enthralling, you see the disaster heading our way, but you can't really do much about it because the forces at play seem greater than you alone can resist.
There are so many curious (to me anyway) aspects of this. 1) Our ability to see that if Obama or Hilary did or said what Trump does...they would be 180 degrees out from what they let Trump get away with 2) Perhaps more importantly....they cannot seem to see this in themselves 3) They accuse of us doing the very same thing without realizing the irony
I'll tell you straight up....that if Obama, Harris or Biden claimed they could lower or have lowered prices by 1500%...I would IMMEDIATELY question their intelligence, competence and skillset for handling the job of POTUS. If they claimed it twice (like Trump has) on completely separate occasions...then I would question the people they've surrounded themselves by who didn't feedback to them that what they're claiming is impossible.
I mean that...and I'm sure you feel the same way. I tried this argument with a MAGA friend of mine...and they simply ignore it and probably claim I'm "just saying that for the sake of winning an argument"
It's both fascinating and horrifying at the same time.
That's true sadly.
I'd guess most of the MAGA's you argue with just happen to be deeply religious.
TheyтАЩre like the Brownshirts who used to sing тАЬWe donтАЩt need Jesus/ we have Horst Wessel.тАЭ They donтАЩt need Jesus: they have Ashli Babbit dying for Dear Leader.
Dude...10 likes for that reference. I don't think I knew about this...thanks for sharing it. Super appropriate for Babbit.
Thanks! You made my day. ЁЯША
The fact that MAGA literally has a Horst Wessel is just a little too on the nose. Like are we being punked?
Five will get you ten that one of the fringe film companies will bring out a biographical movie of BabbitтАЩs life, starring a blonde bombshell dying in the hallway as the pieta de resistance.
Depending upon the perspective...I might be prone to call it "shallowly" religious.
Perhaps superficially?
Yes! Better term!
Thanks.ЁЯН╗
Fair enough.
But are they? Maybe they are just hypocrites.
DamnтАжhadn't thought of that.
IтАЩve noticed that myself.
The video of her is haunting. She looks like a crazed zombie from the Walking Dead.
Looks like the apple didnтАЩt fall too far from the tree either, considering BabbitтАЩs mom wants to lynch Michael Bird and Speaker Pelosi.
https://www.wonkette.com/p/ashli-babbitts-mom-cant-stop-fantasizing
Looks like the apple didnтАЩt fall too far from the tree either, considering BabbitтАЩs mom wants to lynch Michael Bird and Speaker Pelosi.
https://www.wonkette.com/p/ashli-babbitts-mom-cant-stop-fantasizing
I fear the icing on Trump's cake will be when he posthumously awards her the Presidential Medal of Freedom.
Bank it !
Those MAGA freaks support the excessive use of deadly force when the victim is a protester of GOP or conservative issues. Hypocrites all, they are the internal enemy.