This is the third or fourth shutdown since the 90s. The most recent was only 4+ years ago. Some people may be able to argue ignorance, but at this point it's just apathy and malice
This is the third or fourth shutdown since the 90s. The most recent was only 4+ years ago. Some people may be able to argue ignorance, but at this point it's just apathy and malice
They seem a bit confused; every single Director of the FBI has been a Republican. Every single one. And yet the GOP is picking a fight with them as an enemy. I guess they thought their own FBI guys would follow the unofficial playbook and ignore the rule of law for their own kind.
Yep. They are Trump's devotees. There are hangers-on to the Republican label, but they have no principles in common that are not abandoned in a heartbeat for His Majesty, Trump.
That's exactly the problem. Not all of them realize that "law and order" was taken as heartfelt by a lot of their fellow travelers. They long for the good ol' days when the feds would monitor MLK Jr.
The more violence that is threatened and meted out to federal law enforcement, the clearer it will become that the real domestic terror threat is MAGA.
Of course you are right. But not all those who would be affected this time were affected last time. We were also not in the middle of supporting a war. And we did not get a credit downgrade as a result. This Congress will be responsible for two downgrades. That is serious and unprecedented.
I stand corrected. We were in Afghanistan last time. That was Biden’s big mistake in my book. I don’t think we should have withdrawn all personnel. And we should never have done it the way we did.
He didn’t have a lot of choice. Trump made the agreement and the timeline. Ive also heard it suggested that the intel assessment was completely imaginary
I think the military is going to be royally pissed off. Not only will they have no pay I’m sure a lot of them have also heard Trump’s statements about people killed in war being losers, or that McCain, a real hero, was a jerk. And down the line Trump’s remarks about General Milley--someone known widely by the rank and file--should be “hung” (not standard English: a painting is hung, a person is hanged). And what does Trump think would have happened to Europe or even the US without those people in uniform being willing to lay down their lives. Of course he knows no history or geography.
I agree. And I welcome them to their own tipping point; better late than never. I mean, Trumps egregious disrespect of the military is very old news, starting with imaginary bone spurs that kept him out of Viet Nam.
This is the third or fourth shutdown since the 90s. The most recent was only 4+ years ago. Some people may be able to argue ignorance, but at this point it's just apathy and malice
I think I heard yesterday that ALL those shutdowns were via the GOP. Unsurprising.
Yup, only happens when they have at least one house of Congress. They even shutdown when they have the White House!!
They seem a bit confused; every single Director of the FBI has been a Republican. Every single one. And yet the GOP is picking a fight with them as an enemy. I guess they thought their own FBI guys would follow the unofficial playbook and ignore the rule of law for their own kind.
Yep. They are Trump's devotees. There are hangers-on to the Republican label, but they have no principles in common that are not abandoned in a heartbeat for His Majesty, Trump.
Logic doesn’t seem to be necessary.
It’s definitely in short supply.
That's exactly the problem. Not all of them realize that "law and order" was taken as heartfelt by a lot of their fellow travelers. They long for the good ol' days when the feds would monitor MLK Jr.
The more violence that is threatened and meted out to federal law enforcement, the clearer it will become that the real domestic terror threat is MAGA.
Maybe they are seeing the light, when it’s a spotlight placed 2 inches from their eyes . . . for several days. Okay, years.
Of course you are right. But not all those who would be affected this time were affected last time. We were also not in the middle of supporting a war. And we did not get a credit downgrade as a result. This Congress will be responsible for two downgrades. That is serious and unprecedented.
Not following you on the, "We were also not in the middle of supporting a war."
The last three shutdowns were in the middle of US wars.
I stand corrected. We were in Afghanistan last time. That was Biden’s big mistake in my book. I don’t think we should have withdrawn all personnel. And we should never have done it the way we did.
He didn’t have a lot of choice. Trump made the agreement and the timeline. Ive also heard it suggested that the intel assessment was completely imaginary
This time the military is affected; last time they weren’t. I wonder if that detail will erode support for Trumpism/MAGA in the ranks of the military.
I think the military is going to be royally pissed off. Not only will they have no pay I’m sure a lot of them have also heard Trump’s statements about people killed in war being losers, or that McCain, a real hero, was a jerk. And down the line Trump’s remarks about General Milley--someone known widely by the rank and file--should be “hung” (not standard English: a painting is hung, a person is hanged). And what does Trump think would have happened to Europe or even the US without those people in uniform being willing to lay down their lives. Of course he knows no history or geography.
I agree. And I welcome them to their own tipping point; better late than never. I mean, Trumps egregious disrespect of the military is very old news, starting with imaginary bone spurs that kept him out of Viet Nam.