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Urbangirl13's avatar

This is my first time posting here, anywhere actually, I am one of the old ones one of the posters talked about. I'm a fan of you Charlie and watch you on MSNBC every chance I get. I was born in MKE and lived in WI until I was 16 so WI politics is still of interest as I have relatives there still. What I want to say now is how irritated I am right now with our government. I had high hopes that the Muller Report would do something about that criminal in the White House, then when it didn't, I'd hoped the January 6th Commission would get on the ball and expose him, indite him, even jail his ass. I don't care if he was President. I'm disappointed the NY AG's office has failed to do anything in spite of all the evidence of his corruption. I'm disappointed the legislature acts so slowly or not at all in passing the needed laws covering voting, women's rights (abortion), letting the Republicans just run over them...seems like to me anyway. The dems need to get some spine and start acting like they have the power that they do have. Maybe it's the age thing and too many of them are behaving like it's 20 years ago. I look at the members of the Ukraine Parliament, all seem to be young, smart and not afraid to act. We need more of that. As for Ukraine, I am all for giving them everything they need to defeat Putin and giving it to them TODAY! Thanks for giving me a place to speak my mind. Wish it would do some good!

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suzc's avatar

I laugh whenever a talking head says "but Democrats control the Govt." Dems control NOTHING (though Pelosi has a fair hand on her caucus)! Dems do need a spine. And I think they need former GOP strategists, if the Republic is to survive this November. I agree with you, urbangirl! Well said and thanks for saying it! (Maybe it IS partly the age thing; though the young progressives do not strike me as smart about politics, and passion alone won't cut it when the country needs a coalition of right, left and center to stop the Trump Party.

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rlritt's avatar

I'm with you. I don't get it. I think they're afraid of retaliation, but they're going to get it whether they do anything ir not. I'm furious that it's a forgone conclusion in the press that the Republicans are taking over and putting Trump back in charge in '24. That just can't happen. What are the good people in power doing to save our country? What morons think the Republicans should have any power. The Dems aren't great, but at least they don't live in crazy town.

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Urbangirl13's avatar

Yes. this is another area that really makes me angry, assuming that the 2022 elections are going to be won by Republicans because past history says so. The press needs to stop pushing this. I love Steve Kornacki, but find some other stats that show dems can positively win given the Republican shenanigans over the past 6 years and pure criminal behavior. Need to do whatever it takes to not let this happen. Our democracy is in trouble now, if the GOP takes over in 2023, I'm afraid it's if not dead, it will be extremely weakened to the point it will take years to put it right again. Mind you, years at my age I don't have and I'd like to leave this earth knowing the US is still or if not still, on the way to regaining it's place in the free world.

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rlritt's avatar

I agree 100%. I wish some of the older Dems had retired and groomed some really smart replacements. I'm not enthused by the middle age group we have coming up. Harris is an opportunist, I don't care much for Buttigieg, Stacy Adam's is too far left. I think Kobechar would be good but for the far left, she's too moderate. They see the Republican far right pull the moderates onto the Crazy Train and think they should be able to do the same.

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Urbangirl13's avatar

Well, I didn't realize my post was going to get so much attention. But since it has, I find I agree with some of the comments about it and some I don't necessarily disagree with but don't wholeheartedly agree with either. This may be a female/male difference of perspective...I don't know but could be. For instance, Kamala Harris may be an opportunist as you say, but being female she's needed to take advantage of every opportunity that came her way to succeed, all women do. I'm a bit worried that if she runs for president if Biden doesn't this next term, she won't get the votes because she's not taking advantage of opportunities that have come her way. For instance, wasn't she tasked with immigration which is still a mess and needs to be resolved. Why we still are doing things the way the Trump/Miller's immigration plan was implemented I don't understand. If it is a staff shortage, hire people! If it's a judge shortage, make more! We are short of workers in the good ole' USA, there they are! And for heavens sake, give the dreamers citizenship....NOW! And I don't see too far right or left in dems. Either they support programs I'm for or they don't. I do like Buttigieg, he's smart and I think he could get things done given free rein. And Stacy Adams knows what Georgia needs and I think she got cheated out of that last election. Go Stacy! I am a Klobechar fan. I would have voted for her for president if she had been a choice. As for the Republican's too far right...that's not a right thing, it's crazy ideas that seem to have caught the attention of the media anyway. Ignore them, don't give them air time, newsprint, or any recognition. I have a republican spouse who can't stand that thinking and doesn't know what to make of the party nowadays. I guess that's all. If this results in nasty responses, I won't be posting anymore.

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suzc's avatar

Exactly! Of course, things going the way they are, so many heads in sand or mistaken self-interest alignments, among the many nations as well as ours, we'll be digging out of nuclear waste by 2024.

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Spencer $ Sally Jones's avatar

The loud, frequently pushed forward Saunders/AOC contingent gets tons of press. Since most of the country are more centrist, the far left crazy sound like the “Democratic Party.” When people want to live calmly, have protection from police, and be reassured that a majority basically share the same values, the far left ideas sound way too expensive and upsetting. Just as the Bulwark columns have been saying we need to help Joe Biden move to center. Maybe Amy Klobuchar and Pete Buttigieg can help.

S.C. Jones

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suzc's avatar

I think Biden lives at center. I think his flaw is not understanding the time (and perhaps thinking he was hired for other purposes than to calm the waters and restore sanity and justice). I agree he is a disappointment. I do blame those closest to him as much as him. Also he's better at foreign than domestic policy. But he sure doesn't seem to get the existential threat in domestic policy ie voting rights.

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Spencer $ Sally Jones's avatar

I completely agree with you. We thought The Freedom to Vote Act written by Klobuchar & Manchin did a possible job of threading the waters between States Right and Federal Government. It seemed to me that the activists felt it didn’t go far enough. How would you thread this needle?

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suzc's avatar

Somehow "activists" have never learned not to let their Perfect be the enemy of everyone's Good. I don't know the answer. I do not feel that our Republic can survive this. Assuming we survive Putin.

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Spencer $ Sally Jones's avatar

We believe prayer helps.

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suzc's avatar

That's my first smile today at the Bulwark! Thank you.

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rlritt's avatar

But Biden has not pushed a left agenda. The BBBB didn't pass after Biden trimmed it from 6 trillion to 1.6 trillion. Then let Manchin shut it down.

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M. Trosino's avatar

"... start acting like they have the power they do have."

Bingo!

First time here, eh? Off to a pretty good start. Welcome to ya'.

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