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Sara M. Feir's avatar

Truth! People want a guy who can "get things done," and that often seems to include the phrase: "by any means necessary." But he's just a big balloon in so many ways! Just hollow! It's the ideologues around him that I worry about! God, it's frightening!

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Andrew Joyce's avatar

Beware of anyone who says you can only make change by being lawless first.

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Lou Rovegno's avatar

Maybe not lawless, but being willing to shortcut a few annoying processes wouldn't hurt. It got that highway in Pennsylvania rebuilt nice and quick. Let's just do that. Let's treat every good thing we want to do like it's a collapsed highway in Pennsylvania.

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Sandra Filmer's avatar

Stuart Stevens wrote a book тАШIt was All a LieтАЩ that made me, at least, realize republicanism from way back, laid the foundation for Trump.

Why I wish The Bulwark people would acknowledge this and have Stuart Stevens on their shows!

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Sandra Filmer's avatar

Thanks Greg - I just listened to it.

Excellent exchange between 2 former republican operatives but just feeling sickened by what happened so soon thereafter тАж

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Sara M. Feir's avatar

But surely, if all the laws are bad laws, then breaking a few is just common sense. Right? Pesky laws! They spoil all the fascist fun! I wish the National Guard could just refuse to be mobilized in D.C. At least when something like that happened in Canada, there had been some political kidnappings and a murder, and even then, it was a low point to see military in the streets in Quebec. Look up The October Crisis if you're interested.

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BlueOntario's avatar

I recall that service members were willing to get discharged for refusing a vaccine that followed the dotted "i"s and crossed "t"s and was a legal and legitimate order, but no one is standing up to actual tyranny by refusing these orders.

I hope reporters have Kent State bookmarked for reference.

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Andrew Joyce's avatar

Bad laws exist: legal slavery is the prima facia example. We tried to limit it through the legislative process but the secessionists fired on Fort Sumpter rather than abide the law. I see Trump, Project 2025, the unitary executive ideologues in the courts, and the Radical GOP as todayтАЩs secessionists and the first shots have already been fired.

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