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Ashley's avatar

The new immigration polling numbers alone let me know that we are a completely unserious country.

This is an excellent Triad JVL.

Mamdani can’t do a pilot program for 5 grocery stores, but the government and Apple can do full blown socialism because reasons.

The Epstein files are on Bondi’s desk, except there are no Epstein files, but if there were Epstein files they were written by Obama and Hillary, but also the Republicans vote under the cover of darkness not to release them.

Truly just staggering levels of stupidity happening right now.

And honestly, the hypocrisy is what is going to ultimately break me. I can feel it.

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rlritt's avatar

The grift is right out in the open, and everyone in Trump's gov't is laughing at the naivety of the American people for still supporting these criminals.

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Ana's avatar

Staggering.. perfect word.

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MatCauthon's avatar

The guy that screams socialism at every Democrat turns out to be the biggest literal socialist we’ve had as President. Every accusation and all that…

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The Blockhead Chronicles's avatar

I saw this a few weeks ago, and it nails our times because of Dear Leader.

A Narcissist’s Prayer

That didn't happen.

And if it did, it wasn't that bad.

And if it was, that's not a big deal.

And if it is, that's not my fault.

And if it was, I didn't mean it.

And if I did, you deserved it.

(By Dayna Craig, from what I can tell: https://daynaemcraig.com/narcissistsprayer/)

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Nic Hautamaki's avatar

Not to mention the golden share of US Steel. I love that article someone wrote from the perspective of a time traveller from 2029 warning the GOP of the socialist version of Trump that got elected in 2028 and did all the exact same things Trump did except left wing, sending billionaires and politicians who didn't bend the knee to gulags, stacking the courts, etc, and nobody cared because they had already been desensitized by the Trump admin.

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Vic's avatar

If it were just stupidity I would have some hope. America needs to burn down to the ground.

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rlritt's avatar

Well when you have the most watched TV channel in the world as your state TV. And they insist that the Dicator in chief is working for you, what are people supposed to think. Due to the flashy marketing, they no longer are able to reason.

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Carolyn Phipps's avatar

No. If you are serious, then you must be speaking either from ignorance or a profound lack of imagination or a position of dedicated nihilism.

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Vic's avatar

Our President is a rapist who also palled around with a notorious pedo for years. The facts are gross. It’s not nihilism. It’s reality. And, Trump was freely elected, and he still has strong support.

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Steve's avatar

That seems to be an increasingly common sensibility, but be careful what you ask for, because you just might get it. As a case in point, have you ever studied the French revolution?

Of course, the "beauty" of casually talking about burning it all down is that you can sidestep all of the hard work of putting forth a plan to build something better. Nihilism is easy (at least for a while).

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Vic's avatar

The foundation is too rotten to build on.

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Steve's avatar

That's a theory -- now back it up with facts and logic. If you are going to propose such a radical option then you have an obligation to show that you know what you're talking about.

Oh, who am I kidding -- this is social media, where anonymous posters say the most outrageous things.

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Vic's avatar
Jul 15Edited

I would think the last decade would be enough. Hell, the last year is enough. This country is a sick joke.

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Steve's avatar

It's interesting to me that for all of your harsh rhetoric that you still haven't offered a substantive analysis. It's just hand waving.

If I were a Republican operative I would want the pro-democracy movement to lapse into vague and squishy "burn it all down" nihilism. Because when you don't have clear political goals, that's when your movement starts to make big mistakes that authoritarian regimes can take advantage of.

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Jonathan V. Last's avatar

All of this.

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Trey Harris's avatar

When you write, “The new immigration polling numbers alone let me know that we are a completely unserious country,” do you mean the ones showing the thermostatic swings towards “actually, immigration is good and this mass deportation stuff seems sketchy?”

Personally, I’d rather have unserious voters whose minds can be changed than ones who show their seriousness by being ideologues totally immune to facts on the ground.

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Frau Katze's avatar

Deportation remains highly popular among the MAGAs at the WSJ. An editorial suggesting legalizing the Dreamers (DACA, brought here as children) met with huge disapproval in the comments: “Deport them!” being popular.

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Trey Harris's avatar

Sure, but like JVL says often (even in his Substack Live this afternoon with Chris Cillizza), 30% will go along with Trump on absolutely anything. So 70% polling against Trump on anything at all should really get your attention — it’s close to the literal floor.

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Frau Katze's avatar

His loyal base isn’t enough I agree. The statistics do seem to show an encouraging trend.

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Ashley's avatar

Those are the ones! 🤣🤣🫠🫠

I’m absolutely fine with voters who change their minds, as long as they acknowledge why their minds have changed.

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SandyG's avatar

You've captured the entire narrative, Ashley. I believe this is what is known as pretzel logic 🥨.

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Kotzsu's avatar

pass the mustard

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Ashley's avatar

It’s just exhausting.

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SandyG's avatar

That's the purpose.

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David Court's avatar

In another time and place, i.e., when I was decades younger attending UCSB, I recall the phrase, even on T-shirts, "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit." Sounds like the precursor to pretzel logic.

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Avoiding Reprisal's avatar

And you expected...?

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Ashley's avatar

Oh no, I expected all of it and yet the rage I feel is still sometimes surprising.

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rlritt's avatar

Me too. I knew what was happening every step of the way. What surprises me is that I know I am far from being the smartest person in any group, but their grift is soooo obvious that I can't believe the incredible BS that the media shells out giving cover to this gang of grifters in the White House. I guess they are all in on it.

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TAH's avatar

I’ve come to understand that even expecting it, it can still feel like shock and rage.

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Avoiding Reprisal's avatar

Stephen Miller still shocks me. I thought we killed all those demons between 1945-1946. I guess they had offspring. (Spawn)

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Kathy Balles's avatar

Ya gotta wonder what his kids will think about his role in all this one day. Unless he murder/suicides them all like Herr Himmler.

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Sumi Ink 🇨🇦's avatar

I believe it was Goebbels and his wife who murdered their children in the Berlin bunker shortly before the Soviets took the city.

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Kathy Balles's avatar

You’re right - so his physical resemblance to Goebbels might be foreshadowing for all we know.

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Carolyn Phipps's avatar

Their six children.

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