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Sera Bella's avatar

No matter what I read or where I am, one main through point is that Americans take our democracy for granted. That democracy put a bubble around all of us - thicker for those in the majority and thinner as we reach women, people of color and immigrants.

An example is the horror that Mahmoud Khalil was detained illegally. Is this horrific? Most definitely. That said trump and his Nazi crew hate people of color. They articulated it in the trump 1.0, said it over and over again at rallies, so at this point, I look at Americans.

His arrest and detainment is horrific and illegal but can't be unexpected.

Hegseth is in place to unleash the military on the US population. What do people think that means? trump supporters "hate the libs." If they weren't being affected by the job losses and crazy stock market and tariffs, they'd be rooting for trump to take down anyone in blue states.

The reactions and protests I see are not where they need to be to ward off the insanity that I know is coming. We have feckless Democrats voting with Republicans as if this is business as usual. I'm in Indivisible at the local level and it's passable but won't blunt what's happened and what will happen.

I believed that we'd never have elections again. As time goes on that becomes more and more realistic.

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Bruce K's avatar

> An example is the horror that Mahmoud Khalil was detained illegally.

Oh, give me a *#$&*^$ing break. The fact is, is that if Mahmoud Khalil had honestly answered his application to come to this country and admitted to being a supporter of the international terrorist group Hamas - he would have never been allowed into the country to begin with.

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Charles Hall's avatar

Totally irrelevant. ICE illegally entered private property and made an illegal arrest. You are okay with that. You should fear that much more than you fear a terrorist group that does not operate in the US.

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Bruce K's avatar

> You should fear that much more than you fear a terrorist group that does not operate in the US.

Like Al Qaeda, right? Just f-ing camels and beating women and children in the deserts of Afghanistan ... nothing to fear there, huh?

Wake up .... analyze your own bad arguments.

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Charles Hall's avatar

Hamas does not operate in the US. Al Qaeda did. You are the one with the bad argument here!

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Bruce K's avatar

That's just untrue and stupidly so.

There are people who support Hamas here,

and there are groups who pull people in from

the public to demonstrate over stuff they don't

even know. When reporters go into those crowds

the people questioned tell them to go talk to the

sponsors because it is clear they are not there

because they understand the issues.

When Hamas also gets money funnelled from

NGOs in the US who do you think that is?

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Charles Hall's avatar

Al Qaeda didn't use camels, they used airplanes -- after a truck bomb didn't accomplish their goals. And Trump surrendered Afghanistan to them. Hamas does not operate in the US. YOU are the one with bad arguments.

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Bruce K's avatar

All of those are irrelevant and emotional nonsense arguments. Hamas clearly operates in the US.

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Sera Bella's avatar

Exactly.

He is cherry picking to make a false declaration.

My point is this illegality shouldn't be a surprise.

Mahmoud' ls ethnicity alone gave ICE the excuse they were looking for.

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Bruce K's avatar

And what cherry am I picking? Even if better to pick actual cherries than to make up reasons to cower in fear.

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Sera Bella's avatar

ICE detained him illegally. Period.

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Bruce K's avatar

We will see. I detest Trump & Musk and the rest, but there is no sense in making a big scene over something that is essentially the right thing to do.

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