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Keith Wresch's avatar

Please provide evidence and sources for your claims about Mr. Khalil. The government has only said his views ‘align’ with Hamas, whatever that means. The only thing that I can find is his support for Palestinian self determination. But then Israel and its American allies have long been trying to criminalize that sort of speech.

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HP's avatar

From another substack article:

When someone demands evidence for the manifestly clear, you have to assume their insincerity. Their intent is not inquiry but obstruction through a performance of doubt. No amount of proof will satisfy those already convinced or committed to feigned skepticism.

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Bruce K's avatar

> Israel and its American allies have long been trying to criminalize that sort of speech.

Speech supportive of hate and genocide. I think if this guy was a foreign born supporter of Nazism you would sympathize and side with him as well.

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Keith Wresch's avatar

Again please provide evidence. A number of Israeli politicians have been urging genocide and ethnic cleansing in Gaza. I don’t hear you calling them out.

We already have Elon Musk who is clearly dabbling in Nazism, or at least pushing the edge as far as he can. He’s abhorrent, but his speech is protected as well.

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Bruce K's avatar

Really? What Israeli politicians have been urging genocide against Palestinians?

Does that include the two million Arab Israelis who live mostly peacefully inside Israel without being brought up from cradle to martyrdom by a terrorizing inhuman totalitarian regime that forces their ctizens to become suicide bombers, soldiers, slaves or hostages to their sick military regime?

Do you support a society that does that to their people. Do you call that free will, or free speech?

How many supporters of Hamas do you think we should allow into our country?

Your changing the subject to Elon Musk ... whataboutism ... is funny because I'd deport him too.

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Keith Wresch's avatar

For Israeli politicians: Ben Gvir, Smotrich are two prominent ones. You may also want to look up the activist Bentzi Goldstein who founded Lehava. At his daughter’s wedding the guests stabbed the image of an 18 month old Palestinian child who had died in an arson attack carried out by Israelis in the West Bank: the perpetrators seem to have also attended the wedding.

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Bruce K's avatar

That is totally BS.

You are so dishonest I'm not bothering with you any more. Any honest intelligent person would not accept your BS line.

> Nov 21, 2024 — Ben-Gvir is one of leading proponents of ongoing Israeli genocide in Gaza - Anadolu Ajansı.

Because some Hamas advocates says Ben-Gvir is a genocide proponent, that is their words. The fact is that in a population north of 2 million people the deaths of Hamas soldiers and terrorists and around a 1:2 Hamas to "possible" civilian ratio of 40,000 is less than 2%, almost an unheard of ratio in wartime casualties - not a genocide, no matter what anyone says.

It's war, and demonstrably a war of genocide only from the Hamas/Palestinian point of view as they have reiterated over and over again.

The only way that cannot penetrate your reality is if you are knowingly ignorant, or lying in favor of Hamas.

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Keith Wresch's avatar

I’m not in favor of Hamas — it is a terrorist organization which has committed crimes against Israelis and Palestinians for which it should be held accountable. But that doesn’t mean Israelis have clean hands in this conflict either.

I suggest maybe you start reading Haaretz which is the Israeli newspaper of record.

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