Hmm, the choices are either menacing or nice? Agree nice doesn’t work in establishing your authority, but mean? I learned to “take no shit” from 7th-grade students (the most disruptive of the middle grades due to all those hormones surging) as a substitute teacher. The first principal I worked for gave me these watchwords in managing classroom behavior: “loving and firm”.
In a classroom with children, where your relationship with them is part of your teaching, you have to be both loving (preserves the relationship) and firm (behavior compliance). Of course that’s not so in the situation you’re describing. Still, you can be firm, which is confidence in your authority, without being mean. Meanness is for teachers and parents (and Trumpers) who aren’t confident in their authority. The firmness and confidence in your authority is the most important. Civil - and firm - is better than mean.
These are not 7th graders we are dealing with. We are dealing with people who only understand and operate around strong vs weak. Raw force and the will to apply it aggressively is the universal language they understand, not firmness. "Move fast and break stuff" is not about being firm, it's about being swift and course. This is the language of the "disruptors" we're trying to rein in. Give it back to them in their own language, speed, and force and they'll learn a lot quicker than going the "firm" approach. This is about getting results, not showing the best form. No more of this "when they go low, we go high" BS.
Yes, I clearly acknowledged that we aren’t talking about 7th graders.
Move fast and break stuff isn’t what presidents do in our nation.
“Swift” is fine, but I don’t know what you mean by “course.” Is that a synonym for mean? Judges don’t have to be mean when they render their rulings.
I’m sorry, but raw force is not what one does in a liberal democracy that runs on the rule of law. As Malinowski said, "the party fighting to restore a government that respects rules must abide by the rules it champions." Do you disagree with this???
I’m fine with “aggressive”, but “malice” means the intention or desire to do evil. Evidence of “malice” is necessary for a 2nd degree murder conviction. It’s the wrong word.
See this is the shit I hate about Team Blue. If MAGA were raping their family members in front of them and laughing about it they’d be sitting there and debating whether it’d be too harsh to curse at MAGA in retaliation. You win fights with aggression and speed, not with kindness. Going back to the theme of my original post, this is why team blue has no established credibility worthy of deterrence. Because team blue is wayyyy too soft and can’t even stand the thought of fighting maliciously. This is why these folks will bend the knee to MAGA and will never be deterred by team blue.
I agree. The time for niceness has passed. As the author said, the next Dem. administration cannot be like the last two. Healing was important then; it won't make a dent now. The Dems. MUST learn from this nightmare or it could be repeated.
There’s a difference between unconstitutional and illegal—namely in the consequences. When you do something illegal, you get arrested and charged with crimes. When you do something unconstitutional, you get a policy reversal by the courts (eventually). See the difference?
Hmm, the choices are either menacing or nice? Agree nice doesn’t work in establishing your authority, but mean? I learned to “take no shit” from 7th-grade students (the most disruptive of the middle grades due to all those hormones surging) as a substitute teacher. The first principal I worked for gave me these watchwords in managing classroom behavior: “loving and firm”.
In a classroom with children, where your relationship with them is part of your teaching, you have to be both loving (preserves the relationship) and firm (behavior compliance). Of course that’s not so in the situation you’re describing. Still, you can be firm, which is confidence in your authority, without being mean. Meanness is for teachers and parents (and Trumpers) who aren’t confident in their authority. The firmness and confidence in your authority is the most important. Civil - and firm - is better than mean.
These are not 7th graders we are dealing with. We are dealing with people who only understand and operate around strong vs weak. Raw force and the will to apply it aggressively is the universal language they understand, not firmness. "Move fast and break stuff" is not about being firm, it's about being swift and course. This is the language of the "disruptors" we're trying to rein in. Give it back to them in their own language, speed, and force and they'll learn a lot quicker than going the "firm" approach. This is about getting results, not showing the best form. No more of this "when they go low, we go high" BS.
But we are dealing with people who ACT as 7th graders with no respect for real authority and no real sense of proportion.
Yes, I clearly acknowledged that we aren’t talking about 7th graders.
Move fast and break stuff isn’t what presidents do in our nation.
“Swift” is fine, but I don’t know what you mean by “course.” Is that a synonym for mean? Judges don’t have to be mean when they render their rulings.
I’m sorry, but raw force is not what one does in a liberal democracy that runs on the rule of law. As Malinowski said, "the party fighting to restore a government that respects rules must abide by the rules it champions." Do you disagree with this???
I didn’t say break laws, I said to be malicious/aggressive with our political enemies.
I’m fine with “aggressive”, but “malice” means the intention or desire to do evil. Evidence of “malice” is necessary for a 2nd degree murder conviction. It’s the wrong word.
See this is the shit I hate about Team Blue. If MAGA were raping their family members in front of them and laughing about it they’d be sitting there and debating whether it’d be too harsh to curse at MAGA in retaliation. You win fights with aggression and speed, not with kindness. Going back to the theme of my original post, this is why team blue has no established credibility worthy of deterrence. Because team blue is wayyyy too soft and can’t even stand the thought of fighting maliciously. This is why these folks will bend the knee to MAGA and will never be deterred by team blue.
I agree. The time for niceness has passed. As the author said, the next Dem. administration cannot be like the last two. Healing was important then; it won't make a dent now. The Dems. MUST learn from this nightmare or it could be repeated.
Travis, no one is getting raped. That is a red herring.
And again, I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT KINDNESS or NICE or DON’T BE TOO HARSH.
You are not arguing in good faith here.
Yes but you are recommending breaking laws above. The things you recommend these blue state governors to do are unconstitutional.
There’s a difference between unconstitutional and illegal—namely in the consequences. When you do something illegal, you get arrested and charged with crimes. When you do something unconstitutional, you get a policy reversal by the courts (eventually). See the difference?