Plus, what's on the Republican radar for good events? Shooting, VP, and Convention are all in the past now. I'm sure there will be something, but I don't know what it is.
I see it having a small chance of being good for them.
It will capture the news cycle, but runs the risk of having all the great things they said about Vance thrown in their face. Plus, I'm not sure Vance goes quietly. Think about it for him: His future advancement is over in the GOP if he just meekly goes along. Probably over either way, but he'd might have a chance if he goes down swinging. If trump loses and is discredited Vance has got 4 years before having to face a primary challenge. 4 years is a lot of time to rehabilitate an image and for Trump to die or fade away. If he's replaced Vance is never going to be President, but I think it would be an open question how he best holds onto a senate seat for the next 30 years...
All good points. And it divides the Trump Party between the MAGAs who love what Vance says and the ones who actually want to win the election. That's good for us in the pro-democracy coaltion, because the divided party usually - I think always, but I haven't done that searching - loses the general election.
Likely, theyтАЩre counting on a successful terror attack or something. Probably over Israel.
Will Saletan had a good (though scary) piece on that a few weeks back. IMO, thatтАЩs the most likely deus ex trump that could save him at this point.
Which we all hope wonтАЩt happen, or will be stopped, for reasons that go far beyond mere politics. But yeah, thatтАЩs probably what theyтАЩre hoping for. :/
Yes, the widening war in the Middle East is concerning me. This is where female candidates are seen as weak - a woman as a commander in chief? HRC paved the way for her candidacy by voting for the Iraq War, which opened up a lane for Obama in the primary - he said he wasn't opposed to all wars, just dumb wars and a lot of Dem voters liked that and were opposed to HRC, and then being Secretary of State. But in being so tough, and being female, she alienated a lot of people. She was damned if she did and damned if she didn't. How will Kamala play this? I don't know. I hope she's getting good advice.
Biden got good advice from his national security team, although a lot of Dems thought his loyalty to Netenyahu made him look weak. It's on Biden to navigate the threat of a widening war, but she has to present something on it as a candidate. I'm sure her team is working on her strategy here and figuring out where the majority of the voters are on Israel and on Netenyahu.
Perhaps the widening war prompts a discussion of why the US is supporting the mess that is Israel, especially with Netenyahu's coalition in charge. What does that do to Shapiro as VP? He is my top choice. Choppy waters ahead.
Pay complete attention to the election deniers who likely will refuse to certify elections to the point where there will be insufficient electoral college votes and the next step is to have the house decide. That's very real.
It would be where there was no one who received 270 electoral votes ( a majority) because there were states that did not certify their elections, so, none were submitted. In that case, the election has been turned over to the house and the house votes. Given fealty to party, I would imagine a majority would be the victor and that would currently be GOP by a few votes. That's what Trump wanted Pence to do- refuse to certify the results. It has happened once in I believe either 1800 or 1802. A very scary possibility.
Peter, has anyone done the math on which states have installed election-deniers in the certification role, and mapped that against states we need on various paths?
Oh, ok, I get that would be a case where the votes were insufficient. I didn't know the House selects the candidate in that case. I thought it was only when there was a tie. Can you point me to a credible source on what happens when the votes are insufficient? Thx.
I may be wrong but I think it means that the non-certified votes create a situation where neither candidate can achieve the number of electoral votes required (by law?) to win. I think this will cause the vote to go to the House to determine who becomes President? (I am open to critical rebuffing if I am wrong)
Plus, what's on the Republican radar for good events? Shooting, VP, and Convention are all in the past now. I'm sure there will be something, but I don't know what it is.
Replacing Vance? But not sure that qualifies as good for them.
I see it having a small chance of being good for them.
It will capture the news cycle, but runs the risk of having all the great things they said about Vance thrown in their face. Plus, I'm not sure Vance goes quietly. Think about it for him: His future advancement is over in the GOP if he just meekly goes along. Probably over either way, but he'd might have a chance if he goes down swinging. If trump loses and is discredited Vance has got 4 years before having to face a primary challenge. 4 years is a lot of time to rehabilitate an image and for Trump to die or fade away. If he's replaced Vance is never going to be President, but I think it would be an open question how he best holds onto a senate seat for the next 30 years...
All good points. And it divides the Trump Party between the MAGAs who love what Vance says and the ones who actually want to win the election. That's good for us in the pro-democracy coaltion, because the divided party usually - I think always, but I haven't done that searching - loses the general election.
Roger Stone and crew have 50 years experience staging things. I'm sure they'll come up with something, probably involving paid actors with NDA's.
Likely, theyтАЩre counting on a successful terror attack or something. Probably over Israel.
Will Saletan had a good (though scary) piece on that a few weeks back. IMO, thatтАЩs the most likely deus ex trump that could save him at this point.
Which we all hope wonтАЩt happen, or will be stopped, for reasons that go far beyond mere politics. But yeah, thatтАЩs probably what theyтАЩre hoping for. :/
Yes, the widening war in the Middle East is concerning me. This is where female candidates are seen as weak - a woman as a commander in chief? HRC paved the way for her candidacy by voting for the Iraq War, which opened up a lane for Obama in the primary - he said he wasn't opposed to all wars, just dumb wars and a lot of Dem voters liked that and were opposed to HRC, and then being Secretary of State. But in being so tough, and being female, she alienated a lot of people. She was damned if she did and damned if she didn't. How will Kamala play this? I don't know. I hope she's getting good advice.
Biden got good advice from his national security team, although a lot of Dems thought his loyalty to Netenyahu made him look weak. It's on Biden to navigate the threat of a widening war, but she has to present something on it as a candidate. I'm sure her team is working on her strategy here and figuring out where the majority of the voters are on Israel and on Netenyahu.
Perhaps the widening war prompts a discussion of why the US is supporting the mess that is Israel, especially with Netenyahu's coalition in charge. What does that do to Shapiro as VP? He is my top choice. Choppy waters ahead.
Pay complete attention to the election deniers who likely will refuse to certify elections to the point where there will be insufficient electoral college votes and the next step is to have the house decide. That's very real.
Pls explain "insufficient electoral college votes". Meaning there is a tie?
It would be where there was no one who received 270 electoral votes ( a majority) because there were states that did not certify their elections, so, none were submitted. In that case, the election has been turned over to the house and the house votes. Given fealty to party, I would imagine a majority would be the victor and that would currently be GOP by a few votes. That's what Trump wanted Pence to do- refuse to certify the results. It has happened once in I believe either 1800 or 1802. A very scary possibility.
Peter, has anyone done the math on which states have installed election-deniers in the certification role, and mapped that against states we need on various paths?
Oh, ok, I get that would be a case where the votes were insufficient. I didn't know the House selects the candidate in that case. I thought it was only when there was a tie. Can you point me to a credible source on what happens when the votes are insufficient? Thx.
I may be wrong but I think it means that the non-certified votes create a situation where neither candidate can achieve the number of electoral votes required (by law?) to win. I think this will cause the vote to go to the House to determine who becomes President? (I am open to critical rebuffing if I am wrong)