Which part do you think was faked? I can never quite figure out what people think really happened, if not that somebody tried to shoot Trump and he was struck by a piece of debris.
I think the extent of the injury was faked. I don't think he was hit by a bullet; just a small piece of shrapnel. I find the idea that he had fake blood available to put on the ear fun, but don't believe it.
That the secret service didn't secure the area enough - I chalk that up to incompetence not to a deep state plot to plan a fake assassination. I love the idea of a fake assassination but a man died during this one, and out of respect for him, I think it was real.
Now the guy at the fence at the golf course.... hmmm. Why don't we ever hear about him?
According to a story I read, two state troopers were struck with debris from an exploding amp that was struck with a bullet. They received medical attention. TACO DonOld never released the medical evaluation so we do not know what struck him, but we do know of the troopers. The question is where we’re the troopers who were hit, and how close to the felon were they?
Several things : there was no apparent injury to the ear a day later, the Secret Service let him take time to find his shoe, and the Secret Service didn’t stop him from rising and throwing his arm triumphantly in the air ! I’m sure there are other things which are «off » that would be argued by people more detail oriented than I am.
The assassination attempt was certainly capitalized on by Trump in the moment, but none of this was staged at all and to suggest as much is pretty dumb in my view. Let's leave the wacky conspiracy theories to MAGA folks....
Totally agree. The idea that Trump would get up there and let somebody pretend to shoot at him while actually shooting at somebody in the crowd is quite risible.
I have no doubt that the attempt was real--and like many of the contemporary attacks was basically rooted in some emotional/psych problems on the part of the attacker.
The Secret Service did not do a stellar job, but they seem to have been having problems for a while--or at least that is my general sense of it.
And, of course, Trump and MAGA milked it for all it was worth, even though Trump was not injured enough (if at all) to the point where you could tell a day or two later.
The reality is that if someone competent actually wanted Donald Trump dead--especially a nation-state or some deep state subversive organization--he would be dead. There is an unwritten but apparently scrupulously obeyed rule that major nation-states do not assassinate the heads of other major nation-states (out of apparently "enlightened" self-interest because of the understanding that it would not be as hard to do as people think and they do not want it to happen to them in return.
Better, in their minds, to kill a few hundred thousand or million peons in a war, instead.
MAGA might have milked it for all it was worth, but Trump sure didn't after the bandage came off. You'd think a raging narcissist such as him would be crying "they tried to assassinate me" all the time. And we never hear anything about the golf course attempt.
Because he IS a raging narcissist, that stuff disappears. The narcissist cannot admit or abide that someone does not love him--so that stuff gets memory holed.
"There is an unwritten but apparently scrupulously obeyed rule that major nation-states do not assassinate the heads of other major nation-states (out of apparently "enlightened" self-interest because of the understanding that it would not be as hard to do as people think and they do not want it to happen to them in return."
This came from the lesson of WWI where an assassination of a political leader directly led to the killing of millions of peons at war. Nationalism is a helluva drug.
USSS' best are the ones guarding the principles in office. The rest of the agents who protect candidates and former presidents are the B squad.
I also have to wonder about the quality of B team (or even A team) people that Trump had/has, because I think he would want to be surrounded by people of a more sycophantic type, regardless of their qualifications.
I also note that he doesn't actually go out in public much.
I would certainly never argue that it wasn't a series of strange incidents, but I have yet to hear a plausible explanation for what happened other than the official story.
That's a question that should be answered, but by itself the SS making errors does not refute the official narrative that somebody tried to shoot Trump and he was struck by debris.
I'm not saying that, I'm just saying the official story should explain the questionable situations that have probably brought on the conspiracy theorizing.
Trump only cares about one thing: Donald Trump. I'm sure that in his twisted mind, the victim *died for him*. Sympathy for the victim and his family is an impossible emotion in Trump’s swamplike brain. Sheesh! Three and a half more years of this. This has to be some kind of punishment.
Thanks for the reporting. Most of us call that day the phony ketchup ear day. It is just not believable at all.
Which part do you think was faked? I can never quite figure out what people think really happened, if not that somebody tried to shoot Trump and he was struck by a piece of debris.
I think the extent of the injury was faked. I don't think he was hit by a bullet; just a small piece of shrapnel. I find the idea that he had fake blood available to put on the ear fun, but don't believe it.
That the secret service didn't secure the area enough - I chalk that up to incompetence not to a deep state plot to plan a fake assassination. I love the idea of a fake assassination but a man died during this one, and out of respect for him, I think it was real.
Now the guy at the fence at the golf course.... hmmm. Why don't we ever hear about him?
Yeah, I agree. I just don't t see any credible alternative explanation, even from people who claim to believe the event itself was faked.
According to a story I read, two state troopers were struck with debris from an exploding amp that was struck with a bullet. They received medical attention. TACO DonOld never released the medical evaluation so we do not know what struck him, but we do know of the troopers. The question is where we’re the troopers who were hit, and how close to the felon were they?
I prefer to skip conspiracy theorizing.
Several things : there was no apparent injury to the ear a day later, the Secret Service let him take time to find his shoe, and the Secret Service didn’t stop him from rising and throwing his arm triumphantly in the air ! I’m sure there are other things which are «off » that would be argued by people more detail oriented than I am.
The assassination attempt was certainly capitalized on by Trump in the moment, but none of this was staged at all and to suggest as much is pretty dumb in my view. Let's leave the wacky conspiracy theories to MAGA folks....
Totally agree. The idea that Trump would get up there and let somebody pretend to shoot at him while actually shooting at somebody in the crowd is quite risible.
I have no doubt that the attempt was real--and like many of the contemporary attacks was basically rooted in some emotional/psych problems on the part of the attacker.
The Secret Service did not do a stellar job, but they seem to have been having problems for a while--or at least that is my general sense of it.
And, of course, Trump and MAGA milked it for all it was worth, even though Trump was not injured enough (if at all) to the point where you could tell a day or two later.
The reality is that if someone competent actually wanted Donald Trump dead--especially a nation-state or some deep state subversive organization--he would be dead. There is an unwritten but apparently scrupulously obeyed rule that major nation-states do not assassinate the heads of other major nation-states (out of apparently "enlightened" self-interest because of the understanding that it would not be as hard to do as people think and they do not want it to happen to them in return.
Better, in their minds, to kill a few hundred thousand or million peons in a war, instead.
MAGA might have milked it for all it was worth, but Trump sure didn't after the bandage came off. You'd think a raging narcissist such as him would be crying "they tried to assassinate me" all the time. And we never hear anything about the golf course attempt.
Because he IS a raging narcissist, that stuff disappears. The narcissist cannot admit or abide that someone does not love him--so that stuff gets memory holed.
"There is an unwritten but apparently scrupulously obeyed rule that major nation-states do not assassinate the heads of other major nation-states (out of apparently "enlightened" self-interest because of the understanding that it would not be as hard to do as people think and they do not want it to happen to them in return."
This came from the lesson of WWI where an assassination of a political leader directly led to the killing of millions of peons at war. Nationalism is a helluva drug.
USSS' best are the ones guarding the principles in office. The rest of the agents who protect candidates and former presidents are the B squad.
Agreed.
I also have to wonder about the quality of B team (or even A team) people that Trump had/has, because I think he would want to be surrounded by people of a more sycophantic type, regardless of their qualifications.
I also note that he doesn't actually go out in public much.
I would certainly never argue that it wasn't a series of strange incidents, but I have yet to hear a plausible explanation for what happened other than the official story.
The official story needs to include why the SS didn't have him covered on the ground. That's their job.
That's a question that should be answered, but by itself the SS making errors does not refute the official narrative that somebody tried to shoot Trump and he was struck by debris.
I'm not saying that, I'm just saying the official story should explain the questionable situations that have probably brought on the conspiracy theorizing.
Except that someone actually died...
And that is awful. And even worse because Trump didn’t/doesn’t care about that.
Trump only cares about one thing: Donald Trump. I'm sure that in his twisted mind, the victim *died for him*. Sympathy for the victim and his family is an impossible emotion in Trump’s swamplike brain. Sheesh! Three and a half more years of this. This has to be some kind of punishment.
Nope, he cares only about himself. His whole family could be wiped out and unless they took his money when they did it, he wouldn't mourn one bit.