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Geoff G's avatar

No, I'm saying that racists saying and doing racist things, at the tippy-top of GOP politics, is a very serious problem, but not as serious as slavery and segregation. Even so, it's a slight exaggeration - especially if said by a young person who didn't live through slavery or segregation. In that case, racism probably is, literally, the worst in their lifetimes. And it's a shame to be experiencing it in 2024.

I'm mostly pushing back on the implication that there's some congruity between Trump and (possible) exaggeration of current racism on the left. The former is a catastrophe, the latter is an annoyance (to some).

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Christina Ballard's avatar

While we might be "light years ahead of 1971" is some aspects-- everyday incidences of racism and a dismantling of SOME of systemic racism-- the fact that a movie that has grossed as much as Barbie was snubbed and the fact that an extraordinarily successful woman (Swift who has very adeptly created HER OWN empire) are being injected into politics and are being torn apart by the still mysonist nature of our culture is a big tell.

Even a woman who has managed to navigate a notoriously male-controlled industry and has autonomy over a very wealthy empire is being subjected to such nonsense is a sign we really have not come that far.

The argument used to be that women were not capable-- well, Swift has proven that hypotheses false. Yet, here we are. So even when women can carve out an empire in their name, it is still at the whim of the old white men who believe their birthrate makes them more valuable.

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Mark P's avatar

Sorry, but that's a gross exaggeration, saying Swift is at the mercy of old white men and her career is being torn apart by misogynist culture? She's more popular and powerful than ever! She may be Biden's best hope of defeating Trump in November!

Also, since when are Oscars awarded based on how much a film grosses?

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Christina Ballard's avatar

And that's a gross mischaracterization of what I wrote. I didn't say Swift's career or standing in the industry is being torn apart, she is being used as a political pawn of sorts by people who need to make up ridiculous conspiracy theories.

The fact that she is being subjected to such ridiculous notions is what I meant by "torn apart." She is being subjected to this nonsense despite the fact that she is incredibly successful- point being, even women who stand on their own and have carved out their own space, cannot escape the attempts to knock a woman down a notch.

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Mark P's avatar

Sure, she’s being subjected to political nonsense, but I think the fact that she’s a woman is the least of the reasons she’s being subjected to it, more important are: 1. She’s very famous, 2. She’s endorsed Biden in the past, 3. She’s dating someone who endorses Covid vaccinations and is also famous. These make her a perceived threat to right wing loonies. Sure, it’s idiotic, but these people are seeing conspiracies everywhere now. The NFL is massively popular and this is giving her a lot of exposure to people who previously may not have really listened to or known her music, which scares the crap out of the loonies.

I don’t think she’s too concerned or worried about it, outside of the fact that some crazy person might threaten violence against her, but I’m sure she’s had to deal with that kind of thing already being that she’s been massively popular for some time now.

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Sharon King's avatar

I was in the first class of students integrated in my city. I’m not excusing racist behavior, but by any measure we are light years ahead of 1971.

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Colleen Kochivar-Baker's avatar

I would agree that legally we are ahead of 1971, but I don't know about attitudinally. The backlash to Obama was depressing, and the George Floyd murder was a grim reminder that Blacks absolutely experience a different justice system, especially on the ground floors.

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