Doesn't Vance understand the importance of immigrant labor to farmers, meat packers and restaurants? Who is going to do these jobs, unless you foresee a near future depression with 20% unemployment?
Hope and pray? ThatтАЩs never done anybody in danger any good. I suggest if you are able bodied, you get in shape. Run, push-ups, pull-ups, weights. If they try to shitcan the 2026 elections, weтАЩre gonna need people to тАЬprotest.тАЭ Vigorously, perhaps.
We are approaching the time when we will see who among us, are sunshine patriots, and summer soldiers.
Much as I dislike the Weather Vain, I mean Vance, I have to point out that he does care about himself and is willing to do whatever it takes to stay on the good side of Big Daddy until the final cheeseburger comes. After all, JD really stands for Jettison Donald.
Yes, he does care about himself. Sorry, I thought it goes without saying that all of these pieces of shit care about themselves. Other than that, they have no worries about what they're doing to the rest of us.
Vance has his, he doesnтАЩt give a ratтАЩs ass. TheilтАЩs whole project is creating a world where wealthy people can create a class of workers without rights.
Right we have enough Black Asian and "other" races to do those jobs. Or maybe, like in Chicago, there is a huge Russian and Polish immigrant population who can do those jobs. As a Polish immigrant woman who cleaned houses for a living told me she was LEGAL immigrant. She hated Blacks and Hispanics. Had no problem expressing racism.
It doesn't matter, the only thing that makes sense at this point is that they intentionally want to provoke a severe crisis in order to declare martial law and complete their destruction of our democracy. A food-shortage crisis on top of natural disasters with no FEMA relief and violence in the streets provoked by ICE might be just the ticket.
Back when Ayatollah Khomeini was in power a journalist asked him about retaining control of his country when only 30% of the population supported him. He replied "well, yes that's true. We have only 30% of the population. But we have ALL of the guns".
Vance can't seriously think that "his people" will do those jobs. Does he seriously think his pill-addled mom would have worked in a meat packing plant? Or that a WV county where 30% of the population is on disability can provide farm labor? There are multiple counties in Appalachia where half the kids live with grandparents. I'm sorry, these rural communities of "real Americans" aren't going to step in and fill the gap left by his immigration policies. Food prices will skyrocket.
Doesn't understand, doesn't care. The f@#$%&g republicans live in an alternate reality where things are as they believe them to be---wenn das der F├╝hrer w├╝sste (because the Leader wishes it). Immigrants MUST be the problem because Dinky Dick says they are, so the bearded titmouse must agree in lockstep, and all f@#$%&g republicans must vote accordingly.
That it will wreak havoc across the country, with hot spots in the stupid states (yes, Alaska included, but maybe a bit later than the others), is of no importance.
I stand corrected and thank you for the translations. The first term came from a book I read back in the mists of time, and I'll be the first to admit my German was thin to begin with and is now quite rusty. Prost!
My dystopian imagination: in a few years, we donтАЩt have enough workers and the administration threatens companies to тАЬdonateтАЭ labor where needed. Company Boards start тАЬvolunteer AmericaтАЭ program forcing employees to report to a factory, farm, construction site, etc to тАЬhelp outтАЭ one day a week. The company pays for the labor costs. And companies not willing to do it get investigated by SEC, DOJ, loses government contracts, etc. IтАЩve seen enough corporate cowardice so far to believe theyтАЩd go along with it.
The Mao model. They're already running a cultural and intellectual purge; it seems logical to me that they will go full hardline and pursue the Maoist or Stalinist model when the crops need to be brought in, etc, as you said. For a group of people who rave daily about their abhorrence of communism they seem awfully keen to implement it.
All the folks sitting at home doing nothing but drawing on SNAP and Medicaid. Probably not anywhere near enough of these folks to replace all the immigrant workers in meat processing, agriculture and hospitality industries. Now that immigrant day workers know that hanging out at HomeDepot looking for work will get you arrested, are we seeing these sit at home, I canтАЩt find a job US citizens taking their place to do construction and landscape work?
MAGA are rabid on the subject of illegals. I see them in the comments at the WSJ: throw them out is almost the only sentiment. This includes the тАЬDreamers,тАЭ who were brought illegally as children. Throw them out!
Doesn't Vance understand the importance of immigrant labor to farmers, meat packers and restaurants? Who is going to do these jobs, unless you foresee a near future depression with 20% unemployment?
You're missing the point. Vance doesn't care - about anything. Period.
None of them do. I've been watching the republican/now maga abdication of responsibility since the early 2000s.
None of them do...................they have neither morals or shame, if this bill doesn't lose them the midterms NOTHING ever will
Let us hope and pray there are midterms.
Hope and pray? ThatтАЩs never done anybody in danger any good. I suggest if you are able bodied, you get in shape. Run, push-ups, pull-ups, weights. If they try to shitcan the 2026 elections, weтАЩre gonna need people to тАЬprotest.тАЭ Vigorously, perhaps.
We are approaching the time when we will see who among us, are sunshine patriots, and summer soldiers.
He cares about access to power.
He cares about obtaining and maintaining power. That's it.
he likes his beard. Makes him feel manly like Don Jr
Those beards are just icky.
If we lived in a fair world, everyone who votes/votes Yes would have their own healthcare taken away.
Much as I dislike the Weather Vain, I mean Vance, I have to point out that he does care about himself and is willing to do whatever it takes to stay on the good side of Big Daddy until the final cheeseburger comes. After all, JD really stands for Jettison Donald.
Weather Vane. I see what you did there. ЁЯСН
Yes, he does care about himself. Sorry, I thought it goes without saying that all of these pieces of shit care about themselves. Other than that, they have no worries about what they're doing to the rest of us.
I agree. I'm sure his compliance and capitulation is pure optimism. I dont know what he believes, if anything.
Exactly
Vance has his, he doesnтАЩt give a ratтАЩs ass. TheilтАЩs whole project is creating a world where wealthy people can create a class of workers without rights.
I saw clips from super Christian, dork Ross Douthat interviewing Thiel. Thiel is out there like fuckin Pluto, man! HeтАЩs crazy.
I voiced my displeasure at that Nazi being interviewed and normalized. I doubt the Times cares what I think.
No, the Times leans where the money and power is. Its been a long time since it stood for Truth.
And even if they do, they won't let anyone know for fear that they will be the next be hit for a $16 million settlement offer.
I haven't been able to make myself watch it. Pacing myself as best I can.
It really demonstrates the false Christianity of the "Religious Right" it's all performative. Their real gods are power and money.
Slaves or Serfs? Not clear which we'll be.
Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit. Neither baby. We are gonna be hell on wheels!
Californians, if you spell the last word with the "u" it deserves.
I'm hoping that Canada will buy California. It would be nice to be Canadian.
None of the lazy proud boys are going to do those jobs, I can tell you that.
I suspect many of them are masked and driving around in unmarked cars rounding up people to deport.
Whatever pays the bills!!
Republicans think the nation's underemployed poor men yearn for 16 hour days picking vegetables and packing meat. Because they are fucking idiots.
The only flaw I find in your argumentation is the second word. They WANT them to yearn for....
Right we have enough Black Asian and "other" races to do those jobs. Or maybe, like in Chicago, there is a huge Russian and Polish immigrant population who can do those jobs. As a Polish immigrant woman who cleaned houses for a living told me she was LEGAL immigrant. She hated Blacks and Hispanics. Had no problem expressing racism.
It doesn't matter, the only thing that makes sense at this point is that they intentionally want to provoke a severe crisis in order to declare martial law and complete their destruction of our democracy. A food-shortage crisis on top of natural disasters with no FEMA relief and violence in the streets provoked by ICE might be just the ticket.
Oh yeah, and all 330 million of us are gonna snivel, and raise the white flag. Not this guy baby!
Yep.
They have guns.
We can has them too. Not hard. And there are way more of us.
Back when Ayatollah Khomeini was in power a journalist asked him about retaining control of his country when only 30% of the population supported him. He replied "well, yes that's true. We have only 30% of the population. But we have ALL of the guns".
Yep, there is a reason why the rednecks love and allowed to have their guns.
Mark P - you hit the nail on the head.
That's my conclusion and analysis, as well.
The solution in Florida is to relax child-labor laws. That way, the populace is even more ignorant and easy to lead around as education drops further.
Vance can't seriously think that "his people" will do those jobs. Does he seriously think his pill-addled mom would have worked in a meat packing plant? Or that a WV county where 30% of the population is on disability can provide farm labor? There are multiple counties in Appalachia where half the kids live with grandparents. I'm sorry, these rural communities of "real Americans" aren't going to step in and fill the gap left by his immigration policies. Food prices will skyrocket.
I think we will start seeing forced labor from these 'detention' camps.
Yes but it won't directly impact him, his family or tech comrades.
He doesn't care. His Thiel-agenda is part of Yarvin's philosophy to gut the country and put it back together with a corporate autocracy.
I've recently read about that theory. Its very scary and disheartening. It will turn us into Russia.
Doesn't understand, doesn't care. The f@#$%&g republicans live in an alternate reality where things are as they believe them to be---wenn das der F├╝hrer w├╝sste (because the Leader wishes it). Immigrants MUST be the problem because Dinky Dick says they are, so the bearded titmouse must agree in lockstep, and all f@#$%&g republicans must vote accordingly.
That it will wreak havoc across the country, with hot spots in the stupid states (yes, Alaska included, but maybe a bit later than the others), is of no importance.
Weil der F├╝hrer es so will = because the Leader wants it to be so.
Wenn das der F├╝hrer w├╝sste = if the leader knew (about) it
No disagreement with the thrust of your comment.
I stand corrected and thank you for the translations. The first term came from a book I read back in the mists of time, and I'll be the first to admit my German was thin to begin with and is now quite rusty. Prost!
ЁЯН╗ (We lawyers like correct citationsЁЯШЙ)
A lawyer named Court. Dude. FTW.
My dystopian imagination: in a few years, we donтАЩt have enough workers and the administration threatens companies to тАЬdonateтАЭ labor where needed. Company Boards start тАЬvolunteer AmericaтАЭ program forcing employees to report to a factory, farm, construction site, etc to тАЬhelp outтАЭ one day a week. The company pays for the labor costs. And companies not willing to do it get investigated by SEC, DOJ, loses government contracts, etc. IтАЩve seen enough corporate cowardice so far to believe theyтАЩd go along with it.
The Mao model. They're already running a cultural and intellectual purge; it seems logical to me that they will go full hardline and pursue the Maoist or Stalinist model when the crops need to be brought in, etc, as you said. For a group of people who rave daily about their abhorrence of communism they seem awfully keen to implement it.
I thought they were against socialism...ЁЯЩД or don't they know the difference ЁЯШП?
As long as they are the elite, they dont care.
All the folks sitting at home doing nothing but drawing on SNAP and Medicaid. Probably not anywhere near enough of these folks to replace all the immigrant workers in meat processing, agriculture and hospitality industries. Now that immigrant day workers know that hanging out at HomeDepot looking for work will get you arrested, are we seeing these sit at home, I canтАЩt find a job US citizens taking their place to do construction and landscape work?
MAGA are rabid on the subject of illegals. I see them in the comments at the WSJ: throw them out is almost the only sentiment. This includes the тАЬDreamers,тАЭ who were brought illegally as children. Throw them out!
Vance had tapped into the MAGA mood perfectly.
ThatтАЩs why theyтАЩre banning abortion.