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MC's avatar

Can someone explain to me how The Bulwark/tenured pundits like Joe Klein and Bret Stephens' aimless wishcasting for somebody other than Biden is any different than Conservative Inc.'s aimless wishcasting for somebody other than Trump?

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Old Chemist 11's avatar

Or my 50+ year "wishcasting" that someday a majority would vote by reason instead of emotion, and reject "idol worship" and admit that politicians are supposed to serve us, not vice versa?

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The Puppet Government's avatar

It is precisely wish-casting. They effusively praise these Whitmer-Warnock etc tickets as if Kamala Harris is not sitting right there after a successful term as Senator and years off on the job training alongside an old pro like Joe.

Sure, and I wish they had named me prom king. But lets move on, shall we?

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rlritt's avatar

She did not finish her her senate term. I voted for her for Senate and was sorry she was picked to be VP. But there is no getting rid of her now.

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The Puppet Government's avatar

Yes, I do not see the point in all the hand-wringing about her. I am also from California. Have seen her positives and negatives. Would not necessarily vote for her with a song in my heart, but she is solid on the things I care about, such as protecting democracy.

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Jan's avatar

ThatтАЩs EXACTLY what it is!

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Bridget Collins's avatar

When was the last time Joe Klein was relevant?

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Sko Hayes's avatar

Remember when we used to call him "Joke Line"? Early 2000s, I think.

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Robert Jaffee's avatar

Joe Klein, who? Exactly!...:)

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Timothy M Dwyer's avatar

REDHEADED CENTER for the тАШ86 Boston Celtics (Robert ParishтАЩs backup) - out of Arkansas, I believe. Good hustle, ok around the basket, 1 foul per 1 minute played

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Liberal Cynic's avatar

Never.

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Hopehappens's avatar

Exactly. Thank you. I donтАЩt know why the Bulwark is trying to make him relevant.

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Rita Parker's avatar

Because Charlie had to find someone who would agree with him about Biden.

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Lewis Grotelueschen's avatar

It is different because the underlying belief is that Biden loves his country and understands that Trump losing is more important than Biden winning. If Biden comes to believe that he is not the strongest candidate against Trump, the rational thing to do is to bow out. If his value system is as described.

We all know what Trump's value system is.

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Frank Hawkins's avatar

I firmly believe he would do that if for any reason he doubted that he could serve ably for a second term. ThatтАЩs his value system. But for the moment, given foreign policy challenges, I think heтАЩs by far the best person for the job.

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Sko Hayes's avatar

I appreciate the sentiment, but Joe worked his entire life to get here. He's not giving that up.

Personally, I believe that ship (Joe stepping back and what, holding a primary that no one has planned for?) has long sailed, and we should accept the fact that Biden will be our nominee.

I think some of the discomfort I see has more to do with Biden's VP, a very intelligent, experienced black woman that the right and some on the far left hate (literally on Hillary Clinton level) who would take over if something were to happen.

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rlritt's avatar

That's so true. Haley already said in her campaign she is not running g against Biden, she's running against Harris. That is resonating with Republicans.

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Sko Hayes's avatar

Nothing scarier to Republicans than a strong competent black woman in charge!

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rlritt's avatar

I'm not sure about Harris. There are other black women who have more legislative experience.

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Sko Hayes's avatar

But the other black women aren't VP.

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BJ's avatar

Sold to highest bidder(s).

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No Sympathy, No Charity's avatar

ItтАЩs the exact same.

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