I was brought up in a conservative religious family. My parents usually voted Republican, but not always. I never heard a racist word from them, ever, and their conduct toward people of other races was always cordial. Likewise with other people I've known who identify as conservative.
There are black people today who vote Republican. Black voters tend to be more conservative in their attitudes than white activist Democrats.
Republicans fought against the right to own slaves in the Civil War.
LBJ often made obnoxiously racist statements, though he calculated that getting the black vote would be politically advantageous.
Conservatives have asked useful questions about whether the social policies promoted by Democrats really improve the condition of black Americans in -- or just make white Democrats feel good about themselves.
There are people who constantly seek to gain political advantage by alleging that everything a conservative ever does or proposes is always fundamentally racist - even if it has nothing to do with race. E.g. Dems often said that conservative opposition to the ACA was essentially racist -- which is absurd..
The Dems often go overboard on the left, as GOP does on the right. The ACA opposition was financial. The reason so many were left to die in Katrina was financial (poor were left; those with a car got out). Republicans always fight against helping others who have less than they do! Republicans hate giving money to anyone but the rich. There is often if not always a financial component to Republicanism if not conservatism. So are white supremacists acting to preserve their wealth or their chance at wealth against The Other who might get a share? Or is it possibly both? Because they seem to hate women too. Maybe we need a new word for what is being done to us.
My grandfather was quite racist. His daughter, my mother, tried to be a better person, teaching us, "You need to respect all people, even the blacks" without ever understanding that she should have put a period where her comma is. I know because I tried to explain it to her. Her response, ''m not racist like my father." Improvement is quite slow and incremental.
"There are black people today who vote Republican. Black voters tend to be more conservative in their attitudes than white activist Democrats."
Somewhere between 10-15% of black voters go Republican depending on the election. There are of course outliers to that but it's the general rule. They're probably the least Republican voting bloc in America.
"Activist Democrats" is a bit of an artificial label but if you mean people who carry signs and say things like "latinx" you're talking about a tiny fraction of Democratic voters. So your statement might be true, but doesn't mean much.
"Republicans fought against the right to own slaves in the Civil War.
LBJ often made obnoxiously racist statements, though he calculated that getting the black vote would be politically advantageous."
You are describing the actions of two political parties between 50-150 years ago. Almost everyone in power from that time is dead, and most voters don't remember the 60's except maybe their childhood.
"Conservatives have asked useful questions about whether the social policies promoted by Democrats really improve the condition of black Americans in -- or just make white Democrats feel good about themselves."
What questions do you think those are?
"Dems often said that conservative opposition to the ACA was essentially racist -- which is absurd.. "
I can't tell you how many times I've heard someone write or say that ACA was just a hand out to lazy blacks who don't want to work.
The Republicans that fought against the right to own slaves in the Civil War were the progressives of their day. The conservatives were in the Democratic party back then. It wasn't until the 1960s-1970s that conservatives really started leaving the Democratic party for the Republican party.
My father was also a Republican, and one of the best people I've ever known. He owned a business that employed mostly Mexican-Americans. All the higher level jobs were held by Anglos; it never occurred to him to promote the Chicanos. He was a racist. He was a kind, fun, curious person, one who might be, if he was alive today, able to discover his own racism, and change it. I like to think so.
It's just something people haven't thought about before because we're taught Democrats = Liberal and Republicans = Conservative with no acknowledgment that the parties basically swapped places about 60 years ago.
Me for one. In the 70s, I voted for both Rs and Ds, depending on the individual. Most of the Rs from the 50s, 60s, 70s wouldn't be welcome in the R party today. Hell, Donnie wouldn't be either, until he figured out he could grift Rs on a massive scale!
I was brought up in a conservative religious family. My parents usually voted Republican, but not always. I never heard a racist word from them, ever, and their conduct toward people of other races was always cordial. Likewise with other people I've known who identify as conservative.
There are black people today who vote Republican. Black voters tend to be more conservative in their attitudes than white activist Democrats.
Republicans fought against the right to own slaves in the Civil War.
LBJ often made obnoxiously racist statements, though he calculated that getting the black vote would be politically advantageous.
Conservatives have asked useful questions about whether the social policies promoted by Democrats really improve the condition of black Americans in -- or just make white Democrats feel good about themselves.
There are people who constantly seek to gain political advantage by alleging that everything a conservative ever does or proposes is always fundamentally racist - even if it has nothing to do with race. E.g. Dems often said that conservative opposition to the ACA was essentially racist -- which is absurd..
The Dems often go overboard on the left, as GOP does on the right. The ACA opposition was financial. The reason so many were left to die in Katrina was financial (poor were left; those with a car got out). Republicans always fight against helping others who have less than they do! Republicans hate giving money to anyone but the rich. There is often if not always a financial component to Republicanism if not conservatism. So are white supremacists acting to preserve their wealth or their chance at wealth against The Other who might get a share? Or is it possibly both? Because they seem to hate women too. Maybe we need a new word for what is being done to us.
My grandfather was quite racist. His daughter, my mother, tried to be a better person, teaching us, "You need to respect all people, even the blacks" without ever understanding that she should have put a period where her comma is. I know because I tried to explain it to her. Her response, ''m not racist like my father." Improvement is quite slow and incremental.
"There are black people today who vote Republican. Black voters tend to be more conservative in their attitudes than white activist Democrats."
Somewhere between 10-15% of black voters go Republican depending on the election. There are of course outliers to that but it's the general rule. They're probably the least Republican voting bloc in America.
"Activist Democrats" is a bit of an artificial label but if you mean people who carry signs and say things like "latinx" you're talking about a tiny fraction of Democratic voters. So your statement might be true, but doesn't mean much.
"Republicans fought against the right to own slaves in the Civil War.
LBJ often made obnoxiously racist statements, though he calculated that getting the black vote would be politically advantageous."
You are describing the actions of two political parties between 50-150 years ago. Almost everyone in power from that time is dead, and most voters don't remember the 60's except maybe their childhood.
"Conservatives have asked useful questions about whether the social policies promoted by Democrats really improve the condition of black Americans in -- or just make white Democrats feel good about themselves."
What questions do you think those are?
"Dems often said that conservative opposition to the ACA was essentially racist -- which is absurd.. "
I can't tell you how many times I've heard someone write or say that ACA was just a hand out to lazy blacks who don't want to work.
The Republicans that fought against the right to own slaves in the Civil War were the progressives of their day. The conservatives were in the Democratic party back then. It wasn't until the 1960s-1970s that conservatives really started leaving the Democratic party for the Republican party.
My father was also a Republican, and one of the best people I've ever known. He owned a business that employed mostly Mexican-Americans. All the higher level jobs were held by Anglos; it never occurred to him to promote the Chicanos. He was a racist. He was a kind, fun, curious person, one who might be, if he was alive today, able to discover his own racism, and change it. I like to think so.
I can't believe people still don't get that Nixon saw Wallace's vote totals and targeted those ex Dems in the South
It's just something people haven't thought about before because we're taught Democrats = Liberal and Republicans = Conservative with no acknowledgment that the parties basically swapped places about 60 years ago.
I've taught it every year in US History for 23 years and I suspect some posters here were alive when it happened :)
Me for one. In the 70s, I voted for both Rs and Ds, depending on the individual. Most of the Rs from the 50s, 60s, 70s wouldn't be welcome in the R party today. Hell, Donnie wouldn't be either, until he figured out he could grift Rs on a massive scale!
Ditto
If Black voters are more conservative, than why do the overwhelmingly vote Democratic?
So, the US was better off before the CRA and the VRA? That's a useful question? Do you even see what you're writing?