This is exactly the point. Democrats have behaved as if there is a reasonable expectation the other side will adhere to moral standards and shudder to think if Dems didn't do the same. Get real! Dems bring knives to a knife fight and Republicans bring nukes. If I were Biden I'd hand out pardons like they are candy. Wake up Dems! They also need someone like Rahm Emanuel as head of the DNC.
Great analysis! Now we donтАЩt have any party to uphold the rule of law, which proves MAGAтАЩs point; democrats are just as hypocritical as MAGA, except MAGA never claimed the mantle of moral superiority; they revel in duplicity, hypocrisy and vengeance!
That said, why are you willing to die on a hill for an entitled crackhead? Did he pardon all the people who are also on TrumpтАЩs naughty list, who didnтАЩt commit crimes? Or is this just NewtonтАЩs third law of physics in play: for every action, there is an equal opposite reaction? And weтАЩre seeing an overwhelming reaction in support of Biden; a man who is proving once and for all, heтАЩs just as petty and narcissistic as Trump!
So once all is said and done, where does all this abuse of power finally end? It certainly doesnтАЩt solve the problem of TrumpтАЩs next administration. It only helps him in confirming unqualified imbeciles, who arenтАЩt fit to serve us dinner! Yet, here we are!тАж:)
It is his son. And MAGA will come for him. That's a given. The norms are gone, and you, Bill, Tim, Sara & JVL need to realize that. I grew up where one wrong does not make a right or if you can't say anything nice. That's gone too. I would not sacrifice my son to MAGA. Trump will do what he's going to do no matter what Biden does. Totally disagree with you and all the rest of The Bulwark.
No, IтАЩm comparing the hypocrisy. No one forced Biden to take a stand, especially given TrumpтАЩs proclivity for vengeance. My issue is that his word is as meaningless as TrumpтАЩs. You canтАЩt have it both ways; you either respect the rule, of law or you donтАЩt.
Hunter was found guilty by a jury of his peers. If weтАЩre outraged with all the court interventions to help Trump, a convicted criminal, then you canтАЩt seriously support or justify what Biden is doing for his son!
If any pardons should be given, itтАЩs to people who truly put their lives on the line in the name of justice. Hunter is not one of them, and this pardon only serves to confirm MAGAтАЩs suspicions: Democrats are all hat, and no cattle!
So please tell me how democrats move forward with any credibility; especially given that Trump is going to not only break the law, heтАЩs going to re-write them!
How is pardoning his son which the Constitution, the supreme law of the land, gives him the authority to do without any constraint except in cases of impeachment disrespecing the rule of law?
ItтАЩs disrespecting the rule of law, because he said he wouldnтАЩt pardon Hunter in order to uphold the rule of law.
As IтАЩve stated previously, Biden wasnтАЩt asked to make that BOLD statement, but once he did, he is supposed to keep his word! After all, wasnтАЩt it Biden who claimed that Trump was abusing his power by pardoning criminals who didnтАЩt even complete their sentences, and never showed even an ounce of remorse or contrition!
Has Hunter even shown any remorse? No, like Trump, heтАЩs a victim and the trial was politically motivated, even though, it was Garland who appointed the special counsel.
We can debate whether it was warranted or not, but the fact is that Garland was appointed by Biden, and it was he, who made the decision to keep the Hunter investigation open.
Sandy, IтАЩve learned a long time ago, to pick and choose my battles wisely; this isnтАЩt a battle IтАЩm willing to fight for. All weтАЩre doing is strengthening TrumpтАЩs hand to help him confirm his worst nomineeтАЩs and to help him implement his most draconian agendas. And his sycophants in Congress will use the pardon as an excuse of democratic hypocrisy to help him achieve his goals of authoritarianism.
Hunter has shown remorse. He was mentally ill and in a state of depression and irrationality when he bought and disposed of that gun without ever loading it. He did not have control of his faculties nor did he do anything with intent to harm anyone. He has paid the late taxes and worked to rehabilitate himself. He has always been a target of MAGA simply because of the circumstances of his birth
Hunter BidenтАЩs crime isnтАЩt a death penalty case. If Hunter went to prison during a Trump administration, he would never come out. He would meet with mysterious тАЬmisadventureтАЭ similar to Jeffrey Epstein.
Yes, they will use it to criticize Democrats as hypocrites. They are already doing so.
That was the rock Biden was facing on one side. The hard place on the other side was what a Trump-run Bureau of Prisons, who will not respect the rule of law, would do to his incarcerated son. He valued protecting his son more than not giving the Republicans fodder for their criticism of Democrats. In that, IMO, he made the right choice.
Biden could have put his own son in prison personally and Trump would still be an authoritarian and nominate the worst people and go after those he thinks wronged him. He doesn't need any excuse.
I hope Biden pardons himself and Kamala on January 19.
This is exactly the point. Democrats have behaved as if there is a reasonable expectation the other side will adhere to moral standards and shudder to think if Dems didn't do the same. Get real! Dems bring knives to a knife fight and Republicans bring nukes. If I were Biden I'd hand out pardons like they are candy. Wake up Dems! They also need someone like Rahm Emanuel as head of the DNC.
Rahm E. Really ?
Yes, the Dems need a junk yard dog not a milquetoast guy or gal to speak the usual talking points.
Great analysis! Now we donтАЩt have any party to uphold the rule of law, which proves MAGAтАЩs point; democrats are just as hypocritical as MAGA, except MAGA never claimed the mantle of moral superiority; they revel in duplicity, hypocrisy and vengeance!
That said, why are you willing to die on a hill for an entitled crackhead? Did he pardon all the people who are also on TrumpтАЩs naughty list, who didnтАЩt commit crimes? Or is this just NewtonтАЩs third law of physics in play: for every action, there is an equal opposite reaction? And weтАЩre seeing an overwhelming reaction in support of Biden; a man who is proving once and for all, heтАЩs just as petty and narcissistic as Trump!
So once all is said and done, where does all this abuse of power finally end? It certainly doesnтАЩt solve the problem of TrumpтАЩs next administration. It only helps him in confirming unqualified imbeciles, who arenтАЩt fit to serve us dinner! Yet, here we are!тАж:)
It is his son. And MAGA will come for him. That's a given. The norms are gone, and you, Bill, Tim, Sara & JVL need to realize that. I grew up where one wrong does not make a right or if you can't say anything nice. That's gone too. I would not sacrifice my son to MAGA. Trump will do what he's going to do no matter what Biden does. Totally disagree with you and all the rest of The Bulwark.
So you're equating Joe Biden's pardon of his son as the same abuse of power Trump displayed during his first term as president?
Really?
No, IтАЩm comparing the hypocrisy. No one forced Biden to take a stand, especially given TrumpтАЩs proclivity for vengeance. My issue is that his word is as meaningless as TrumpтАЩs. You canтАЩt have it both ways; you either respect the rule, of law or you donтАЩt.
Hunter was found guilty by a jury of his peers. If weтАЩre outraged with all the court interventions to help Trump, a convicted criminal, then you canтАЩt seriously support or justify what Biden is doing for his son!
If any pardons should be given, itтАЩs to people who truly put their lives on the line in the name of justice. Hunter is not one of them, and this pardon only serves to confirm MAGAтАЩs suspicions: Democrats are all hat, and no cattle!
So please tell me how democrats move forward with any credibility; especially given that Trump is going to not only break the law, heтАЩs going to re-write them!
How is pardoning his son which the Constitution, the supreme law of the land, gives him the authority to do without any constraint except in cases of impeachment disrespecing the rule of law?
ItтАЩs disrespecting the rule of law, because he said he wouldnтАЩt pardon Hunter in order to uphold the rule of law.
As IтАЩve stated previously, Biden wasnтАЩt asked to make that BOLD statement, but once he did, he is supposed to keep his word! After all, wasnтАЩt it Biden who claimed that Trump was abusing his power by pardoning criminals who didnтАЩt even complete their sentences, and never showed even an ounce of remorse or contrition!
Has Hunter even shown any remorse? No, like Trump, heтАЩs a victim and the trial was politically motivated, even though, it was Garland who appointed the special counsel.
We can debate whether it was warranted or not, but the fact is that Garland was appointed by Biden, and it was he, who made the decision to keep the Hunter investigation open.
Sandy, IтАЩve learned a long time ago, to pick and choose my battles wisely; this isnтАЩt a battle IтАЩm willing to fight for. All weтАЩre doing is strengthening TrumpтАЩs hand to help him confirm his worst nomineeтАЩs and to help him implement his most draconian agendas. And his sycophants in Congress will use the pardon as an excuse of democratic hypocrisy to help him achieve his goals of authoritarianism.
Hunter has shown remorse. He was mentally ill and in a state of depression and irrationality when he bought and disposed of that gun without ever loading it. He did not have control of his faculties nor did he do anything with intent to harm anyone. He has paid the late taxes and worked to rehabilitate himself. He has always been a target of MAGA simply because of the circumstances of his birth
Hunter BidenтАЩs crime isnтАЩt a death penalty case. If Hunter went to prison during a Trump administration, he would never come out. He would meet with mysterious тАЬmisadventureтАЭ similar to Jeffrey Epstein.
Yes, they will use it to criticize Democrats as hypocrites. They are already doing so.
That was the rock Biden was facing on one side. The hard place on the other side was what a Trump-run Bureau of Prisons, who will not respect the rule of law, would do to his incarcerated son. He valued protecting his son more than not giving the Republicans fodder for their criticism of Democrats. In that, IMO, he made the right choice.
Please show me where he said he wouldnтАЩt pardon Hunter in order to uphold the rule of law.
Nope.
Biden could have put his own son in prison personally and Trump would still be an authoritarian and nominate the worst people and go after those he thinks wronged him. He doesn't need any excuse.
I hope Biden pardons himself and Kamala on January 19.
I'm not sure I agree either. Why don't you?