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Liberal Cynic's avatar

You've obviously never been to a Portland demonstration.

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Travis's avatar

Here's what I know about Portland:

1) MAGA comes to Portland to protest ready for the violence that they're baiting the other side into (And they bring Andy Ngu to film it one-sidedly)

2) Antifa never goes to MAGAville counties to protest ready for violence and to get it on tape for the social medias

Antifa relies on its local geography where it VASTLY outnumbers the MAGA goons who come in to win in the street violence world. Antifa *never* goes into a red county to *protest* wearing all black or whatever fuckin fashion trends the commies are into these days and baiting MAGA into reactive violence that would justify their own.

Kyle Rittenahus goes to Kenosha to shoot left wing looters, little fuckin Antifa college kids don't go down to the Capitol to beat the fuck out of J6 protestors and help out the USCP.

Like, my dude, these fucking nazi kids packed a Uhaul van full of prepared street fighters to fucking *Idaho* from as far away as Texas as recently as June--and that shit only didn't happen because a neighbor saw them packing in the van and called the cops on them.

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Travis's avatar

Imagine how awesome it would have been to see a mob of about 100+ Washington DC citizens march over to the capital mid-J6 to beat the fuck out of MAGA insurrectionists from their rear flank when they were beating the shit out of cops. Like, imagine the CNN/NBC cams panning away from the front lines of USCP officers being assaulted to show J6 insurrectionists breaking ranks because ordinary citizens didn't stand for their bullshit and chased them off. That could be the world we came away with, but the political left in DC stayed home that day and watched it on CNN instead because fighting is dangerous and that's scary for most libs. If I was a denizen of DC, you better believe I would've been taking immediate leave from work, putting on a CV mask, and then beating the fuck out of some insurrectionists with a god damned Louisville slugger.

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Yes, the Left stayed home which took the air out of "it was Antifa" bullshit Ingraham tried to start. Trump wanted the Left there and they told him to fuck off.

And who wants to go to bumfuck Idaho to screw with the locals? Nobody, because we're not filled with insane hate for the other side.

If MAGA wants to fight then they have to come to the cities and they would be destroyed in the cities.

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If Antifa was out there beating the shit out of MAGA insurrectionists while the MAGA insurrectionists were beating the fuck out of the cops, how was MAGA going to get away with blaming the insurrection on Antifa?

It's like "dude we WERE there, beating the fuck out of YOU while you guys were doing insurrection things and beating the fuck out of federal police officers. We were the good Samaritans rescuing the police." The left missed a big street violence wedge opportunity. Proto-MAGA didn't miss their opportunity to defend the cops in Ferguson when the Oath Keepers showed up in full kit now did they? Again, there's your difference.

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Kevin's avatar

It was my understanding that trump was hoping for left-wing counterprotestors / Antifa to show up on 1/6 so that he could invoke the insurrection act and martial law, and that those groups stayed away for that reason.

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Travis's avatar

And what would happen if he invoked the insurrection act? The Oath Keepers with the guns across the river woulda went open-carry mid-insurrection and they woulda been shot to death by the FBI's HRT. I woulda been happy with that outcome to be perfectly honest. They want their armed showdown with federal law enforcement? I am HAPPY to give it to them if they try that stupidity. Ashlii Babbitt needs some martyrdom company and plenty of MAGA men could use them some 72 virgins I'm sure.

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Because that happened during the Floyd protests. Groups like Boogaloo came in and shot cops, started fires and destroyed property and got "Antifa" blamed for it.

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Travis's avatar

Right, exactly. MAGA knows how to work the street violence, the left does not.

While Antifa and black blok kids are attacking *property*, the Boog kids come in and attack *people*, which makes it looks like the left did the violence in the moment. A classic "false flag" op in the midst of larger opposition violence.

That'd be like if Antifa killed liberal politicians while hiding amongst the J6 crowd to make it look like the J6 insurrectionists killed liberal politicians. That kind of shit is wayyyy outside of what the left is willing to do.

Again, see the difference in street violence intensity? Boog Bois will shoot at FPS officers from the back of a car or light a police station on fire or drop pallets of bricks into districts they know that BLM looters will be terrorizing at night. Don't you see it yet? The right knows *exactly* how to operate in the street violence spaces whereas liberal political street fighters (when they actually show up) basically only know how to miss wedging/false flag opportunities and shoot themselves in the foot politically when they operate. They're like fish out of water in that space. Mostly because they are. The worst they've ever seen in their lives is a bar fight over a woman where *maybe* someone ends up in the hospital. The worst kids on the right have seen are counterinsurgency operations where people got killed violently and the violence is pre-planned. The left and the right grew up in very different worlds over the last 20 years when it comes to the violence they lived with. Probably why the left thinks that "words are violence", etc. whereas the right has a much more grounded definition.

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Travis's avatar

Maybe. I don't really buy it when the video evidence woulda clearly shown who was beating on who.

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