I don't care if they did or didn't vote to censure, but I do think the fact that so many people's first impulse is to ask "how is this going to play in Peoria?" fully in public, without asking if he was right or factually accurate, is part of why uninvolved voters think Democrats are cynical, untrustworthy operators. Pundits do not convince people, which is part of why the punditization of anti-Trump discourse has failed to move people.
When you say “Peoria”, do you mean with the people that actually elected them? Aren’t they all supposed to be concerned about that? What do uninvolved voters think about the Republican Party right now? Nothing? It’s all good? Let’s worry about the Al Green vote? I would say that uninvolved voters are probably not even paying attention to this silly vote.
I am sorry, but if voters are so cynical about a nothing vote… and let’s be fair, a lot of the Democrat votes have been going towards nothing so they can keep their seat for the next Congress, voters get what they get. This Congress means nothing. We are outnumbered. The next Congress means everything.
The next Congress only means something if Trump haven't completely usurped all power to the executive branch. And that's only if Dems can take the Senate as well, which is extremely likely. The uprising must start before 2026.
What uprising? Political protests? OK. But don’t fault members of Congress for thinking about the 2026 election. Maybe taking back the house is all we’ve got. That will at least force the Republican Party to deal with us in regards to spending and a lot of governing. If we lose the house because 10 Democrats didn’t vote to censure this guy, well, that would be on us. And I’m sure you would complain about it when the time comes.
One great suggestion was that these members of Congress go into a neighboring Republican-held district where that Republican member is dodging town halls (at instruction from R leadership) and hold their OWN town hall meeting. Something like "Your representative is too scared to face you but I'll come and listen to your questions and concerns". There are things to do that can reach voters that are a bit outside the box. Why not stir up the hornets nest in Republican turf? Dems need to do a full-court press and engage in whatever propaganda war they can, BEFORE 2026. Now. Not later.
I don’t know how effective that strategy would be. It seems like that would be a job for a Democrat that is actually running for office in that district.
Never underestimate the effectiveness of trolling. But yeah, it would be best if the person were running for office in that district. But the aim is not necessarily to win the seat: The point is to rile the base up against Trump/Republicans BEFORE the election. Think if it as a different kind of tea party. The purpose is to disrupt what's happening in Washington before Trump completely takes over the government and makes Congress irrelevant.
I don't care if they did or didn't vote to censure, but I do think the fact that so many people's first impulse is to ask "how is this going to play in Peoria?" fully in public, without asking if he was right or factually accurate, is part of why uninvolved voters think Democrats are cynical, untrustworthy operators. Pundits do not convince people, which is part of why the punditization of anti-Trump discourse has failed to move people.
When you say “Peoria”, do you mean with the people that actually elected them? Aren’t they all supposed to be concerned about that? What do uninvolved voters think about the Republican Party right now? Nothing? It’s all good? Let’s worry about the Al Green vote? I would say that uninvolved voters are probably not even paying attention to this silly vote.
I am sorry, but if voters are so cynical about a nothing vote… and let’s be fair, a lot of the Democrat votes have been going towards nothing so they can keep their seat for the next Congress, voters get what they get. This Congress means nothing. We are outnumbered. The next Congress means everything.
The next Congress only means something if Trump haven't completely usurped all power to the executive branch. And that's only if Dems can take the Senate as well, which is extremely likely. The uprising must start before 2026.
What uprising? Political protests? OK. But don’t fault members of Congress for thinking about the 2026 election. Maybe taking back the house is all we’ve got. That will at least force the Republican Party to deal with us in regards to spending and a lot of governing. If we lose the house because 10 Democrats didn’t vote to censure this guy, well, that would be on us. And I’m sure you would complain about it when the time comes.
One great suggestion was that these members of Congress go into a neighboring Republican-held district where that Republican member is dodging town halls (at instruction from R leadership) and hold their OWN town hall meeting. Something like "Your representative is too scared to face you but I'll come and listen to your questions and concerns". There are things to do that can reach voters that are a bit outside the box. Why not stir up the hornets nest in Republican turf? Dems need to do a full-court press and engage in whatever propaganda war they can, BEFORE 2026. Now. Not later.
I don’t know how effective that strategy would be. It seems like that would be a job for a Democrat that is actually running for office in that district.
Never underestimate the effectiveness of trolling. But yeah, it would be best if the person were running for office in that district. But the aim is not necessarily to win the seat: The point is to rile the base up against Trump/Republicans BEFORE the election. Think if it as a different kind of tea party. The purpose is to disrupt what's happening in Washington before Trump completely takes over the government and makes Congress irrelevant.