While I admire Speaker Bowers for standing up the pressure campaign from Trump and his minions, the fact that he says he'd vote for Trump again in 2024 takes some of the shine off his halo.
After being a first-hand witness to Trump's coup attempt, being subjected to death threats by Trump's mob including against Bowers' own dying daughter, after watching Trump eagerly wait to see if the 1/6 insurrectionists would succeed in killing his own VP, Bowers STILL thinks voting for Trump would be a better option than voting for Biden.
I'm gobsmacked. The on-going campaign of destruction of our democratic republic won't succeed only because of armed, violent mobs. It will take place because even otherwise decent people can't see past their worst tribal instincts.
"otherwise decent people can't see past .." is very well put I think. I just said "there are none so blind as those who will not see" which perhaps says the same thing. I also hear that Trump "made us money," which is absurd since Trump has no capacity for making anyone anything and never did a presidential act in his life. I still don't understand why Wall St seems to love him. He did nothing but steal from us, dismantle the federal govt (for Grover Norquist), and golf.
If you ever find out the answer to that, please let us know. I can't think of one, not the even the tax bill or the conservative take-over of the Court, that outweighs the evil he did while in office, especially towards the end.
How on earth anyone with a functioning conscience could even consider voting again for a man who's still pledging to over throw our government - and believe that would be a better choice than voting for someone you might disagree with but who can be counted on to uphold our rule of law - is beyond my comprehension.
He has vague notions -- many of which, according to insider testimony, are illegal or crazy.. As I see it, people with actual policy agendas latched on to him as the vehicle to push them through.
I think they like the tax slash for billionaires, and they love the activist zealots he appointed to the court , and his climate deregulations (i believe Biden has reversed what he could), dumping on Europe, slobbering over putin, and of course his racism and vulgarity. They love it all.
Exactly. "Trump might be criminal and a seditionist, but at least he's not a Democrat!" is an utterly bizarre line of reasoning. Bowers refused to overturn the election because that would have violated his oath of office, but he's perfectly willing to let Trump have another go at it. What the actual......
While I admire Speaker Bowers for standing up the pressure campaign from Trump and his minions, the fact that he says he'd vote for Trump again in 2024 takes some of the shine off his halo.
After being a first-hand witness to Trump's coup attempt, being subjected to death threats by Trump's mob including against Bowers' own dying daughter, after watching Trump eagerly wait to see if the 1/6 insurrectionists would succeed in killing his own VP, Bowers STILL thinks voting for Trump would be a better option than voting for Biden.
I'm gobsmacked. The on-going campaign of destruction of our democratic republic won't succeed only because of armed, violent mobs. It will take place because even otherwise decent people can't see past their worst tribal instincts.
"otherwise decent people can't see past .." is very well put I think. I just said "there are none so blind as those who will not see" which perhaps says the same thing. I also hear that Trump "made us money," which is absurd since Trump has no capacity for making anyone anything and never did a presidential act in his life. I still don't understand why Wall St seems to love him. He did nothing but steal from us, dismantle the federal govt (for Grover Norquist), and golf.
Very well said, Suzanne! Brava!
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They will sacrifice the long-term integrity of the constitutional republic for the sake of policy victories that are reversible.
Trump doesn't have any policies. Why do these otherwise intelligent people believe that he does?
If you ever find out the answer to that, please let us know. I can't think of one, not the even the tax bill or the conservative take-over of the Court, that outweighs the evil he did while in office, especially towards the end.
How on earth anyone with a functioning conscience could even consider voting again for a man who's still pledging to over throw our government - and believe that would be a better choice than voting for someone you might disagree with but who can be counted on to uphold our rule of law - is beyond my comprehension.
He has vague notions -- many of which, according to insider testimony, are illegal or crazy.. As I see it, people with actual policy agendas latched on to him as the vehicle to push them through.
I think they like the tax slash for billionaires, and they love the activist zealots he appointed to the court , and his climate deregulations (i believe Biden has reversed what he could), dumping on Europe, slobbering over putin, and of course his racism and vulgarity. They love it all.
Exactly. "Trump might be criminal and a seditionist, but at least he's not a Democrat!" is an utterly bizarre line of reasoning. Bowers refused to overturn the election because that would have violated his oath of office, but he's perfectly willing to let Trump have another go at it. What the actual......
Except some might be irreversible for a loooong time. Like Roe.
@Carol S, interesting point