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The Coke Brothers's avatar

Don't "fck" with medicaid should mean don't touch the program. But in good old maga tradition, the gop congress vermin heard trump say something and then interpreted it to mean anything they wanted. There is no other country on earth where people joyously vote to have their rights taken away and their wealth and benefits passed on to the billionaire class. It's mindboggling. It can't possibly be just because they want non white people to suffer and to keep two trans girls out of lacrosse.

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Jeff's avatar

It is three things. They want non-white people to suffer. They are big mad about women's sports and keeping trans girls out. And three - in their mind they have the potential to be uber wealthy (if not for those non-white folks) and so they don't want to be restricted when they become billionaires.

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The Coke Brothers's avatar

1. will take generations to change. I'm not hopeful. 2. ok so now there are no trans girls in sports - that should not be a reason and 3. how can we disabuse them of that notion?

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Bruce Schechter's avatar

We can't because they don't really thing trans women in women's sports is a problem. For them it is just a wedge. If Democrats had banned trans women from women's sports they would be attacking them for that. I don't think Trump actually believes in anything but his own magnificence. And he just plain enjoys being cruel.

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Ginny's avatar

Yeah right…the more those non-white people suffer, the more the cost of living will go up for everyone. When are these people going to figure out that the non-white people pick their tomatoes, put on their roofs, and clean their hotel rooms? They also pump their gas… I could go on and on. There is literally no potential for anyone but the already Uber wealthy to be Uber wealthy.

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TomD's avatar

Every organization that delivers money or services of value needs to be on the look-out for WF&A. How organizations do that can be revised and improved. Flat out kicking people to the curb would not be that. Strictly from a fiscal perspective, not changing Medicaid will mean that the BBB will be yet more a staggering increase to the national debt: Paltry spending cuts against a massive reduction to revenue via tax cuts.

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The Coke Brothers's avatar

Nobody needs those tax cuts to be honest. This is a pure reverse robin hood bill, where low income workers are raped over to give money to the trillionaires. Middle income people and, in fact, all of us, are fucked over long term being straddled with this staggering debt. This is absolutely abhorrent.

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Katherine B Barz's avatar

To the billionaires they do need this tax cut. There was an old poster, “He who dies with the most toys, wins.” Just substitute money for toys.

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Jeff's avatar

This is one of the things that kills me. They have all of this money and their goal isn’t to do cool stuff with it like build theaters, or other community spaces. No, they just want more zeros in their bank account. I look at someone like Shari Redstone and I’m like you have all of this money and power, you could be a national hero by standing up to Trump, but no, you want more money… for what? You can’t spend the money you have now on yourself, so why why why Shari do you need more? It makes no sense to me, money without purpose is meaningless.

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Katherine B Barz's avatar

The Romans used their wealth for spectacles and festivals. The Robber Barons used their money to build lavish “cottages” for themselves then created foundations to give their offsprings jobs - think Rockefeller - and burnish their legacy - think Carnegie. The latest group want to buy themselves islands, go to mars, and buy yachts that need a secondary yacht to hold the helicopter pad. Their purpose is to acquire money. It’s an addiction with no end.

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Bruce Schechter's avatar

It *is* an addiction. In fact, I think there should be a Surgeon General's warning on every piece of currency and on every financial statement that says that the accumulation of money can become a dangerous addiction, or words to that effect.

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Bruce Schechter's avatar

You're right. The only 'benefit' they get from a tax break is perhaps to climb up a position or two on the leaderboard of the world's (or America's. Not sure.) leaderboard. Their goal is to be in the highest position before things like money stop meaning very much and they head for their survival barracks where there will be nobody left to care and where they will ultimately die.

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Katherine B Barz's avatar

There was a movie in the 50’s about nuclear annihilation. I think it was “On the Beach.” Only the people in Australia were left and the radioactive cloud would arrive soon. Well, everyone died. That’s how I think of these crazy people with too much money will wind up. Alone and dead. Their money won’t save them, and in acquiring it, they never had a real life, just things.

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TomD's avatar

Musk and his pals actually talk about living forever.

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Katherine B Barz's avatar

So did a lot of people. They are still dead. The problem with too few working brain cells and too much money is that these people think they can do anything they want.

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TomD's avatar

Paying more for goods and services, paying more in interest to buy things.. to the same motherfuckers who would get most benefit from the tax cut....

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The Coke Brothers's avatar

basically an ouroboros of shit. That's what we have become.

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Bruce Schechter's avatar

Yeah, it's pure corruption. I don't understand why Trump and his followers don't understand the simple economics. Don't the profits of corporations depend on selling things to the poor, the working and the middleclass. As prices rise and employment drops and expenses for things like medical and rent skyrocket, they won't have much money, or any at all, to devote to anything more than survival.

Where do they think their profits will come from?

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monoview21's avatar

My taxable income this year, social security, state pension and a few dividends/interest income was around $56,000. After deductions/Social Security "discount", my taxable income was around $35,000. I had to pay about $3500 in taxes. 10% of 35k is a lot versus 10% of 1,000,000.

net $30k versus net $900k. Lower income folks are getting fucked right now.

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