I know this discussion is more of a general thought exercise of the consequences of falling to an authoritarian GOP under Trump, but I struggle to see how we even make it to the point of finding out.
If Trump is a free man and the Republican nominee next year, I'm not so sure we'll get as far as the election before civil conflict escalates and things start to fall apart.
I just don't see how we can have a peaceful campaign with him as a candidate. I can't begin to wrap my brain around the idea of another Trump campaign, not to mention the possibility of him being President again. Many tens of millions of my fellow citizens feel the same way. On the other hand, another couple tens of millions of my fellow Americans would not accept the idea of him losing.
For our fellow citizens to even nominate him again feels like the equivalent of a kamikaze act of (civil) war - "screw you, try to stop him, and us".
He cannot be the nominee. Then we can have that discussion about what a Desantis(?)/GOP authoritarian-lite US looks like.
I agree about not wanting him as the nominee. That aside, if he's the nominee and wins, I don't think we get civil war. If he's the nominee and loses, I think the feds and military put a cap on any violence pretty quickly. It may be ugly for a bit, but for all the bluster out there, I don't think we get sustained violence.
The scenario that has me worried is if he loses according to the votes, but Republicans pull their stunts with ignoring the votes in certain states and we then have a contested situation (worse than last time). That might get enough people fired up on both sides to devolve into a shit show, especially if the military isn't 100% clear on who it should be following (Jan 21st, for instance).
I know this discussion is more of a general thought exercise of the consequences of falling to an authoritarian GOP under Trump, but I struggle to see how we even make it to the point of finding out.
If Trump is a free man and the Republican nominee next year, I'm not so sure we'll get as far as the election before civil conflict escalates and things start to fall apart.
I just don't see how we can have a peaceful campaign with him as a candidate. I can't begin to wrap my brain around the idea of another Trump campaign, not to mention the possibility of him being President again. Many tens of millions of my fellow citizens feel the same way. On the other hand, another couple tens of millions of my fellow Americans would not accept the idea of him losing.
For our fellow citizens to even nominate him again feels like the equivalent of a kamikaze act of (civil) war - "screw you, try to stop him, and us".
He cannot be the nominee. Then we can have that discussion about what a Desantis(?)/GOP authoritarian-lite US looks like.
Hard to see, the future is. - Yoda
I agree about not wanting him as the nominee. That aside, if he's the nominee and wins, I don't think we get civil war. If he's the nominee and loses, I think the feds and military put a cap on any violence pretty quickly. It may be ugly for a bit, but for all the bluster out there, I don't think we get sustained violence.
The scenario that has me worried is if he loses according to the votes, but Republicans pull their stunts with ignoring the votes in certain states and we then have a contested situation (worse than last time). That might get enough people fired up on both sides to devolve into a shit show, especially if the military isn't 100% clear on who it should be following (Jan 21st, for instance).