I am happy to expel anti-Semites from the Party. Just as we expelled the racists in the 1970s.
"The US and Israel and part of a white hegemony"
I am happy to expel such ignoramuses from the Party. I go to synagogue with Israeli Jews whose skin is sufficiently dark that they would have been banned from attending the same schools as me or swimming in the same swimming pools as me back in the Jim Crow era. (Yes, I am that old.)
I suggest you do not label young progressives who have no real ties to the holocaust with the label of anti Semitism. I am 74 and my grandparents came from the Russian empire. I knew adults who had been in the camps and survived. But I can’t argue the young into my perspective. (There are Jews in my extended family). But a 42 y/o activist who is Puerto Rican (I knew her well) sees Israel as a western colony. We simply cannot refuse to recognize that there are really different perspectives on issues like this.
Sorry i adamantly disagree. People have all they can do just to live their lives. The woman is raising a teenager alone. And since Puerto Rican - she really is focused on the prejudices she has noticed against herself. She is also a working class girl - I assume she hears many more hispanic voices that you do.
Have you ever spent time around hispanics? My town is 70 % hispanic - different perspective.
Ok then you are simply unable to accept that across cultures folks see things differently. In NJ I argue all the time with no white folks who tell me that unless Mikie Sherrill condemns Israel that she wont get the non white Hispanic vote. If you see the view of these hispanic folks as ignorant anti semitism you are blind to the way too numerous ideas that exists in the many cultures around the world. My mother's family came from the Russian Empire - her parents and 2 sisters were born overseas. I also have Jews in my extended family - so am fully on the side of Israel. But.... It is really being obtuse to assume the an hispanic person will have enough interest in the obscure topic of zionism to understand things as you do. .......... I see so much more thought devoted to how the Americas were colonized - and how the whites remained in charge. Again to dismiss havin an entirely differnt point of view is to tell me that you cant' grasp how different the populations in hte Americas are from the Europeans..
There is no "non white Hispanic vote". There are many different "Hispanic" voting blocs and they are very different. And race is much less of an issue in most Hispanic cultures. The fact that you even use the term shows that you really don't know what you are talking about.
And I double down on my statement that anyone who sees Israel as a Western Colony is an ignorant anti-Semite. Particularly ironic given that the United States actually IS an settler colonialist state, and your own ancestors were colonists from Russia as you admitted.
I am happy to expel anti-Semites from the Party. Just as we expelled the racists in the 1970s.
"The US and Israel and part of a white hegemony"
I am happy to expel such ignoramuses from the Party. I go to synagogue with Israeli Jews whose skin is sufficiently dark that they would have been banned from attending the same schools as me or swimming in the same swimming pools as me back in the Jim Crow era. (Yes, I am that old.)
I suggest you do not label young progressives who have no real ties to the holocaust with the label of anti Semitism. I am 74 and my grandparents came from the Russian empire. I knew adults who had been in the camps and survived. But I can’t argue the young into my perspective. (There are Jews in my extended family). But a 42 y/o activist who is Puerto Rican (I knew her well) sees Israel as a western colony. We simply cannot refuse to recognize that there are really different perspectives on issues like this.
"Sees Israel as a western colony."
Ignorant anti-Semitism is every bit as bad as deliberate anti-Semitism.
"there are really different perspectives on issues like this"
People are entitled to their own opinions. They are not entitled to their own facts. Whether they are Robert Kennedy or some Puerto Rican "Activist".
Sorry i adamantly disagree. People have all they can do just to live their lives. The woman is raising a teenager alone. And since Puerto Rican - she really is focused on the prejudices she has noticed against herself. She is also a working class girl - I assume she hears many more hispanic voices that you do.
Have you ever spent time around hispanics? My town is 70 % hispanic - different perspective.
I have for the past 24 years lived in a majority Hispanic County -- 55% as of the last estimates. And my wife was born in Mexico.
Ok then you are simply unable to accept that across cultures folks see things differently. In NJ I argue all the time with no white folks who tell me that unless Mikie Sherrill condemns Israel that she wont get the non white Hispanic vote. If you see the view of these hispanic folks as ignorant anti semitism you are blind to the way too numerous ideas that exists in the many cultures around the world. My mother's family came from the Russian Empire - her parents and 2 sisters were born overseas. I also have Jews in my extended family - so am fully on the side of Israel. But.... It is really being obtuse to assume the an hispanic person will have enough interest in the obscure topic of zionism to understand things as you do. .......... I see so much more thought devoted to how the Americas were colonized - and how the whites remained in charge. Again to dismiss havin an entirely differnt point of view is to tell me that you cant' grasp how different the populations in hte Americas are from the Europeans..
There is no "non white Hispanic vote". There are many different "Hispanic" voting blocs and they are very different. And race is much less of an issue in most Hispanic cultures. The fact that you even use the term shows that you really don't know what you are talking about.
And I double down on my statement that anyone who sees Israel as a Western Colony is an ignorant anti-Semite. Particularly ironic given that the United States actually IS an settler colonialist state, and your own ancestors were colonists from Russia as you admitted.