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Max, saying over & over that Joe Biden has been a good President, & it's all the "Bulwark Republicans' fault" helps no one. I bow to no one in my admiration of Joe Biden's accomplishments in his presidency. I've copied Simon Rosenberg's list of bills Biden has gotten passed into a Word document, which I've used on many a comment board to refute nay sayers. But that was a different Joe Biden. We cannot unsee what we saw last Thurs. night, nor can we unread what world leaders who admire Biden & have noticed & are now reporting.

I'm not mad at the Bulwark staff. I'm furious at the Democratic Party hierarchy who kept Biden's decline hidden. Democrats have a very deep bench. There are excellent Governors, some in must-win states, like Josh Shapiro (PA), Gretchen Whitmer (Mich), & Tony Evers (Wisc). And others like Andy Beshear (KY), Gavin Newsom (CA), Phil Murphy (NJ) & Jared Polis (CO). There are also many excellent Senators as well. Sheldon Whitehouse (RI), Bob Casey (PA), Cory Booker ( NJ), Chris Murphy ( Conn), Tim Kaine & Mark Warner ( both VA) & Sherrod Brown (OH) come to mind. These people may not be " household names", but they could have been, if the party had begun promoting them several years ago.

I don't think it's too late now to do this. Kamala Harris could still remain as the VP candidate. But time is short. If Biden remains on the top of the ticket, of course I will vote for him. And I will write as many Postcards to Voters as Tony the Democrat asks me to. But I remain pessimistic that Biden has the strength, vigor & mental agility to win this race for us. And the most important truth is that a Democratic candidate must beat Trump.

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Terry Hilldale's avatar

Nobody kept anything hidden. We have always known the elderly Biden has (mostly) good days and (a few) bad days. Tim counts twenty bad days over Biden's term. Only twenty! Biden on his worst day is still light years better than Trump on his best day.

Keeping Biden offers less risk but also less drama, energy and excitement than replacing him, with no assurance that it would make any difference. The great operational question before us is not “Is Joe Biden too old?” The question is “Do you trust the delegates to the Democratic convention in Chicago to replace the present ticket with a supposedly more winning ticket without ripping their party apart in catastrophic ways?” The Democrats are a coalition party, not a base party, and they need coalition leadership.

The only guarantee is no matter what happens, if Trump slithers through the Electoral College (with a fraction of one percent of the vote), the Dems will viciously scapegoat someone.

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Chris Considine's avatar

Yes but can he beat him

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Terry Hilldale's avatar

History shows the incumbency advantage to be extremely powerful, close to determinative. No matter what there are no 100% guarantees .

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Robert Wendell's avatar

The knives are out, mostly the news media and a few democratic legislators who are depressed and have lost their logical mind set. We wait, time will put events into perspective. The president if he decides that he is damaged goods should step down and turn over the Presidency to the Vice President Kamala Harris. She is in the White House and knows what's going on and will carry on President Biden's agenda. The other option would be to do want LBJ did and say I will not seek reelection. That will open the door to pure chaos. Think of multiple candidates at the convention fighting over who's the best candidate to run the Country. Think 1968 Democratic convention in Chicago. There needs to be ORDER in the chain of command. Rather it's Biden or Harris, democrats, sane independents and Republicans will vote to defeat Trump. A lot of people I talk to don't like Biden but there in total fear of Trump as our President.

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KMD's avatar

Wow - insulting longtime Democratic supporters & contributors - a new way to make friends.

I will match you head to head in going door to door for Democrats, phone banking for Democrats, marching for the ERA & abortion rights & contributing to Democratic candidates nationwide any day, Buddy.

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Steve in NorCal's avatar

While most of us probably agree with your sentiment, we are also wide-eyed about the voting public.

The same voting public that doesn't see much difference between trump and Biden. The same voting public that believes gas prices are Biden's fault.

I align closely with what JVL espouses. Biden has been one of the best presidents in my lifetime. I also think he is on track to lose this election. And after the debate it is now worse and might drag enough other Dem candidates with him to give the fascist right-wingers a trifecta of House, Senate and Presidency.

I would vote for Biden in a coma over trump. But the facts are stark about his candidacy. Quit ignoring that and blaming straight talking never-trump allies.

It's not tim Miller's fault that Biden is sinking in the polls.

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