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Ronbo56's avatar

No one is trashing Biden. He's been great! And what he did in 2020 was awesome! And of course he has my vote if he stays in. The question is whether the voters we need to overcome Trump will be comfortable with a Joe Biden who seemed extremely weak and unfocused during the debate. As to whether it was a one-off, we need Biden to get out in unscripted events with no teleprompter. Absent that, it will be hard not to conclude that he is no longer capable of running a campaign that will defeat Trump and that someone else should step in. Beating Trump is the only thing that matters.

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Steve in NorCal's avatar

We're all going to vote for Biden here, Max. That's a given. Do you not understand that?

There's probably not a single trump voter in the Bulwark universe.

But we also aren't blind or stupid. We see how much that debate impacted the race.

It's time for a different candidate. We must win. This isn't about Biden, it's about defeating trump and the coming theocratic oligarchy.

Right now, Biden's performance will lead to defeat, landslide defeat.

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