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Karen Tumulty: The Country Owes Mike Pence

June 9, 2022
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Episode Notes

Everything would be different if Mike Pence had not counted the votes. He showed courage and faced real potential physical danger. Plus, Biden on Kimmel, Jared & Ivanka’s reputation laundering, and Abbott’s flip-flop on guns. Karen Tumulty joins Charlie Sykes on today’s podcast.

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