Especially with people like Trump, it's important for Justice Merchan not to make threats that he has no intention of following through on. Please, no more talk about jail: that will just encourage him and backfire. Better to start every trial day with "Contempt Hour", and issue the $1000 fines of the day. At his current rate Trump should hit the $100,000 mark before the trial goes to the jury, and that's a better headline than anything involving a night in jail.
This idiot actually claimed that Columbia was contractually obligated to provide food and water to these criminal “students “ because they signed up for campus meal plans. Leave the hall you barricaded inside of, walk to the campus cafeteria, and chow down you pampered soldier of the intifada. Crap like this resonates with Americans. The Bulwark community just doesn’t get it. They need to denounce this clearly, consistently and continuously instead of giggling about the latest Trump stupidity.
The arrest records noted that of the 28 or so occupants of those offices, only two were actual Columbia students. Who benefits by these “entitled student leftist” tropes? Ask yourself that.
Gaza has been judenfrei and essentially an independent state for almost 20 years.
Yes it's been totally free of Jews for the last 20 years but it's also been bombed Every few years by the Israeli Air Force. The bombs dropped by Israel have done enormously more damage than any rockets shot off by Hamas. Israel has the Iron Dome and the Palestinians have nothing that can protect them. The number of Palestinians killed by the IDF has always vastly outnumbered the number of Israelis killed by Palestinians. Sounds like one side is getting the short end of the stick.
Out of curiosity, how often have bombs been dropped by Israel that weren't retaliation for rockets being shot by Hamas into Israel? How many bombs do you think would have been dropped if NO rockets were shot into Israel? How would you expect the US to respond if rockets were shot from Canada or Mexico into the US?
I don't think this is a matter of one side getting the short end of the stick.
I sleep a lot better at night with Joe Biden in the Oval Office. At least I know he is encouraging my Republican friends and family to vote, however misguidedly, instead of trying to get their names and addresses so he can persecute them. Does anyone here need the link to a news article about Trump trying to get voter roles from the states? Anybody?
An important difference between now and then is this: in 1968 you and i would have agreed about nothing involving the Vietnam conflict and the antiwar movement and who should be the next President. Today, we probably disagree greatly on how to respond to Gaza and the student protests but are firmly united in the effort to bring down Donald Trump. This alliance is certainly more difficult for you and the Bulwark founders because you and they had to abandon your political centers and lifetime party to save the nation. So much easier for Democrats like me. Anyhow, after Donald goes down, we'll start disagreeing sharply on domestic and foreign policy issues but I hope and expect that we'll be disagreeing with mutual respect that was missing in 1968.
Reading Bill Krystal's piece on comparisons was depressing. I remember that time period, and I want to scream at those students to tell them what they are demonstrating about won't get fixed under Trump, so KNOCK IT OFF.
I hope your readers watch the video at the end. Because the written post is misleading. The student first makes the valid point that some protesters have paid for the university's meal plan, so administrators have an obligation on that score. Second she notes that they're asking the university to simply not block the outside delivery of food and water. Are these requests not reasonable? Do they sound like the ravings of a whimpering revolutionary "demanding" curbside service?
Even if true, no meal plan of which I am aware delivers food to you no matter where you are, in lab, at the sports venue, in the quad, or in your dorm. You have to go to the dining hall for it. If you don’t choose to go there for a meal, they don’t put up a snack box for you to pick up at your leisure, either.
Oh my, an "illegal occupation." Civil disobedience. I gather we've retired the social consciousness of Henry David Thoreau? On the other hand, once you wrote that I'm being "disingenuous" I stopped caring about what you thought about anything. Have a nice day.
Presumably the meal plan does not include delivery to wherever you feel like being at the moment.
She explicitly admitted that she had no idea if any deliveries had in fact been blocked. Her references to starvation, death, and violence were all purely hypothetical.
Committing criminal trespass after being warned to cease criminally trespassing is why criminal trespassers cannot have nice things while they are criminally trespassing.
Blocking food deliveries would be inhumane. They should just cut off the power. Once their cell phones go dead I bet they'd leave the building in a heartbeat.
I don't agree with him 100%, but I thought it was so beautifully and honestly written that I wanted to share it. It takes a different angle from what most of us here, myself definitely included, have been saying. I'm glad I was pushed to at least consider this POV.
That photo had to be after The Bust on April 30, 1968. Look at the newspapert headline: Arrest 620 in Columbia U. So this was at least May 1, after The Bust.
Former English teacher and veteran old-school copy editor here. Is this the sentence containing the offending splice?
"In some cases that might be a $2,500 fine, in other cases it might be a fine of $150,000."
Yes, the comma should have been a semicolon, strictly speaking. However, given that these are short independent clauses very similar in form and wording, less than a full stop may be permissible to create emphasis through an additive sequence, as a matter of style. If there were an issue of clarity, I would insist on the semicolon. Pronoun reference in the cited sentence also warrants a closer look, but again, clarity is not an issue as I read it.
The writers deserve a break in this case. They have a lot on their plate.
Cheap Shot Caption Idea:
Intifada? More like INTIFASHION.
We must learn from history and elect Humphrey, not Nixon, this time. Do not let the tragedy of '68 become the farce of '24.
2 May 2024
Liberals, Dems, and Independents better start PRACTICING NOW at holding their noses and voting for Biden-Harris.
Do NOT check-out.
Libs, Dems and all who oppose this insane defendant who tried to overthrow our votes in the 2020 election...
...MUST be as committed to Biden-Harris in November as Trump’s MAGAs are committed to him.
If you aren’t, and you don’t vote in November…
…then America’s democratic republic is over and done. It’s that simple.
Our future is in our VOTES.
Especially with people like Trump, it's important for Justice Merchan not to make threats that he has no intention of following through on. Please, no more talk about jail: that will just encourage him and backfire. Better to start every trial day with "Contempt Hour", and issue the $1000 fines of the day. At his current rate Trump should hit the $100,000 mark before the trial goes to the jury, and that's a better headline than anything involving a night in jail.
This idiot actually claimed that Columbia was contractually obligated to provide food and water to these criminal “students “ because they signed up for campus meal plans. Leave the hall you barricaded inside of, walk to the campus cafeteria, and chow down you pampered soldier of the intifada. Crap like this resonates with Americans. The Bulwark community just doesn’t get it. They need to denounce this clearly, consistently and continuously instead of giggling about the latest Trump stupidity.
The arrest records noted that of the 28 or so occupants of those offices, only two were actual Columbia students. Who benefits by these “entitled student leftist” tropes? Ask yourself that.
Gaza has been judenfrei and essentially an independent state for almost 20 years.
Yes it's been totally free of Jews for the last 20 years but it's also been bombed Every few years by the Israeli Air Force. The bombs dropped by Israel have done enormously more damage than any rockets shot off by Hamas. Israel has the Iron Dome and the Palestinians have nothing that can protect them. The number of Palestinians killed by the IDF has always vastly outnumbered the number of Israelis killed by Palestinians. Sounds like one side is getting the short end of the stick.
Out of curiosity, how often have bombs been dropped by Israel that weren't retaliation for rockets being shot by Hamas into Israel? How many bombs do you think would have been dropped if NO rockets were shot into Israel? How would you expect the US to respond if rockets were shot from Canada or Mexico into the US?
I don't think this is a matter of one side getting the short end of the stick.
Really a close race over who is the most unpopular person in the group. MTG in the house or Ted Cruz in the senate. Place your votes now.
Will the republican message ever be about anything other than we're all going to hell if you don't vote for our candidate du jour.
I sleep a lot better at night with Joe Biden in the Oval Office. At least I know he is encouraging my Republican friends and family to vote, however misguidedly, instead of trying to get their names and addresses so he can persecute them. Does anyone here need the link to a news article about Trump trying to get voter roles from the states? Anybody?
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/5/1/2238299/--Pro-Palestinian-Protests-are-neither-1968-nor-for-Peace-in-Demands-for-the-Dissolution-of-Israel
My in full Daily Kos blog post for those so interested
An important difference between now and then is this: in 1968 you and i would have agreed about nothing involving the Vietnam conflict and the antiwar movement and who should be the next President. Today, we probably disagree greatly on how to respond to Gaza and the student protests but are firmly united in the effort to bring down Donald Trump. This alliance is certainly more difficult for you and the Bulwark founders because you and they had to abandon your political centers and lifetime party to save the nation. So much easier for Democrats like me. Anyhow, after Donald goes down, we'll start disagreeing sharply on domestic and foreign policy issues but I hope and expect that we'll be disagreeing with mutual respect that was missing in 1968.
Reading Bill Krystal's piece on comparisons was depressing. I remember that time period, and I want to scream at those students to tell them what they are demonstrating about won't get fixed under Trump, so KNOCK IT OFF.
I hope your readers watch the video at the end. Because the written post is misleading. The student first makes the valid point that some protesters have paid for the university's meal plan, so administrators have an obligation on that score. Second she notes that they're asking the university to simply not block the outside delivery of food and water. Are these requests not reasonable? Do they sound like the ravings of a whimpering revolutionary "demanding" curbside service?
Even if true, no meal plan of which I am aware delivers food to you no matter where you are, in lab, at the sports venue, in the quad, or in your dorm. You have to go to the dining hall for it. If you don’t choose to go there for a meal, they don’t put up a snack box for you to pick up at your leisure, either.
It's the context of an illegal occupation that makes them unreasonable requests, and her points invalid. I think that your post is disingenuous.
Oh my, an "illegal occupation." Civil disobedience. I gather we've retired the social consciousness of Henry David Thoreau? On the other hand, once you wrote that I'm being "disingenuous" I stopped caring about what you thought about anything. Have a nice day.
I should have said that your post is disingenuous. Fixed.
Presumably the meal plan does not include delivery to wherever you feel like being at the moment.
She explicitly admitted that she had no idea if any deliveries had in fact been blocked. Her references to starvation, death, and violence were all purely hypothetical.
People should definitely watch the video.
Committing criminal trespass after being warned to cease criminally trespassing is why criminal trespassers cannot have nice things while they are criminally trespassing.
Why should they do anything to make life more comfortable for these horrible Jew haters?
Jews are among the protesters.
The wannabe radical, self hating kind.
Blocking food deliveries would be inhumane. They should just cut off the power. Once their cell phones go dead I bet they'd leave the building in a heartbeat.
No. and Yes.
This just popped into my inbox from Shalom Auslander at the Persuasion Substack --
"Dear Media, Stop Taking Students Too Seriously"
(https://www.persuasion.community/p/dear-media-stop-taking-students-too)
I don't agree with him 100%, but I thought it was so beautifully and honestly written that I wanted to share it. It takes a different angle from what most of us here, myself definitely included, have been saying. I'm glad I was pushed to at least consider this POV.
Excellent; thank you for sharing.
That photo had to be after The Bust on April 30, 1968. Look at the newspapert headline: Arrest 620 in Columbia U. So this was at least May 1, after The Bust.
Love the photo though.
Andrew:
Former English teacher and veteran old-school copy editor here. Is this the sentence containing the offending splice?
"In some cases that might be a $2,500 fine, in other cases it might be a fine of $150,000."
Yes, the comma should have been a semicolon, strictly speaking. However, given that these are short independent clauses very similar in form and wording, less than a full stop may be permissible to create emphasis through an additive sequence, as a matter of style. If there were an issue of clarity, I would insist on the semicolon. Pronoun reference in the cited sentence also warrants a closer look, but again, clarity is not an issue as I read it.
The writers deserve a break in this case. They have a lot on their plate.
“Does[sic] members of Congress support the Uniparty?”
Well!? Does they or doesn't they?
Is they is or is they ain't her baby?
That parting cheap shot... Kids today!