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Rich Wingerter's avatar

Any entertainment or information organization controlled by a billionaire (or any cabal of wealthy individuals) needs to take ownership of what they produce.

I want a law that says anyone who puts a significant amount of money into politics (in any way) must register as a major political contributor. And then any content pushed out to the public where any of their money (no matter how tiny) went into putting that out must appear on that content, state their name and who they are, and then say “I approved this message”.

That means that David Ellison needs to appear on all programming on CBS (and pending the acquisition, CNN) and say, “Hi. I’m David Ellison. I own this platform and I approved this message.”

The public needs to know who is manipulating our politics. Make the plutocrats show their faces and take responsibility for what they are putting out to the public.

ktb8402799's avatar

Can we please stop dancing around the issue with criticisms and references to broad based summaries and conclusory statements as if dissecting a claim that “subtle political bias” has seeped into CBS News under Weiss tells us anything useful and focus solely on the things we know she has actually done since getting the job?

The CECOT episode alone demonstrates the injection of pro-Trump political bias into content and editorial decisions to override professional standards of journalistic conduct and practices. Im sorry, but that settles the matter, and any effort to wave it away as unimportant bc the segment later aired is frankly absurd. Her incompetence and failure to change the reporting does not erase her actions or mollify the attempt as some nonevent, and attempts to do so are themselves a betrayal of ethics and journalistic integrity, before even addressing the fact that the correspondent responsible for the report and good work Weiss tried to corrupt was later fired before her contract was up without any legitimate basis or explanation. And she was not the only one punished with termination for resisting Bari Weiss’ unethical political meddling and breach of ethics. This is not a close call folks, and I’m tired of allegedly respectable people pretending otherwise.

Shelley Fryer, Ed.D.'s avatar

Who needs CBS anyway? Their news coverage is awful, their prime time programming is unwatchable and as for 60 Minutes? I can’t even speculate on how awful it will be.

Rich Wingerter's avatar

The entire staff (including the talent) needs to find a new home. I hope an organization with dedication to democracy will employ them wholesale.

What's the problem? It was making a ton of money. Pick it up and make a ton of money.

Shelley Fryer, Ed.D.'s avatar

I totally agree. I have been tracking our TV "app" watching to see if we even watch anything on the Paramount+ App. The only thing it is good for is movies. I wish the staff would quit and move to a place that appreciates them. Hmmm...maybe Netflix?

Susan Gillespie's avatar

I'm not alone in refusing to watch anything on CBS after its right wing capture by the Ellisons, and CNN will be gone from my lineup, too, if it gets the same treatment by the Ellisons. You might report on what those ratings are like at CBS already. We, the audience, aren't powerless. The Ellisons may have got what they want via the avenue of turning some media into Trump cheerleaders, but the audience gets to decide how much green reflecting-pond water they're willing to drink -- and I'm all in on "none."

Fordoor's avatar

Thought I dropped this a few days ago. Please forgive if a repeat.

Like most of us Bari is flawed, and I love her anyway. I loved her before she wrote her resignation letter to the NYT; she was the canary in the coal mine of how woke progressivism was losing its mind, overreaching and inviting in a corrective like Trump. I believe her adventure into substackland (The Free Press) blew-up so quickly, because it revealed a neglected audience that includes democrats such as myself who hungered for something dare, I say fairer and more balanced. I don’t agree with everything Niall Ferguson says, but that voice!

All detractors seem to focus on CECOT; it’s their Benghazi. CECOT is an “N of 1” used pillory Bari. Goldberg is correct we need way more evidence to convict her.

CECOT wasn’t new news; releasing the story immediately wasn’t critical. And maybe it needed work. Or maybe she messed up. She is completely new at this. Can’t we write it off as a beginner’s mistake (like the Laura Kirk interview) and keep a close eye on Bari going forward. Its ok to be pessimistic, Trump has brought powerful institutions to heel. Protecting the news media is very important. But call me when the thumb she is putting on the scale is sore.

For decades CBS has been in third place. A major shake-up can’t hurt it. 60 Minutes was never great. In its first 2 years you could called it inventive, refreshing. But it was always pretty bland, tilting left, with random moments of the spectacular.

I don’t think any of the people writing comments against Bari have watched a full episode in years and years. Who has ever seen 60M as an excellent source?

Let’s just take a breathe. 60M is not worth it.

But please dear god replace Tony D.

Rich Wingerter's avatar

As soon as I got to the word "woke" I stopped reading. That's not what gave us Criminal Trump. What gave us Criminal Trump was the right wing putting over a billion dollars a year into propaganda machines like Fox Fake News and their idea industry that cranks out pseudo-issues like abortion and transgender. They made up the whole issue about the dangers of immigrants so they could have a political platform to run on. They even fielded The Liar, who claimed Haitians were eating pets. That would be like me claiming conservatives are eating children. It would be Swiftian if it weren't accepted by too much of the public as fact.

What gave us Criminal Trump was a whole "political" party that lied and deceived for him. I don't even count the Republican Party as a political party because they don't have the good of the country at heart.

Criminal Trump was not a reaction to progressives in politics. The Democratic Party is totally sufficient to keep progressives from ever getting any significant thing done, especially at the national level. What about progressives offends you, anyway? The idea that people should have a decent wage for their work or that they shouldn't be disposed of as soon as they come down with any significant disease?

The CECOT incident is sufficient to judge Bari Weiss. I judge her morally deficient.

60 Minutes was making money. An honest organization ought to pick up the entire staff, including the talent, and give them a new home. If nothing else it would be a way to make millions of dollars. Simple capitalism ought to induce them.

ktb8402799's avatar

The notion that 60 minutes should withhold a finished in depth investigative report on a matter of public importance because it’s not wholly new breaking news is a facially absurd excuse made significantly worse by the proffered reasons for wanting the delay. You do not withhold reporting because the administration declined to respond to a request for interviews or comment by a requested deadline. That is a fundamentally invalid justification. Period.

You want to insist on giving Bari Weiss the benefit of the doubt that she just made a mistake, ok, well that is immediately undercut by her termination of the correspondent for that piece several months later before the end of her contract and with no proffered reason given. If their conflict over the piece is the reason then she terminated the correspondent her mistake wronged for the crime of conducting herself like an ethical professional resisting an unethical editorial directive.

60 minutes was the number 1 rated show in its timeslot. It is not synonymous with the CBS News nightly broadcast being third place in ratings. It was in fact a ratings leader that saw a 9% ratings jump last year before Bari gutted the program and its staff. Your attempt to conflate the two contentions is wrong, misleading, and disingenuous, the only question is whether you know you are intentionally deceptive or you’re incompetent. Let us know.

Fordoor's avatar

I guess we will have to agree to disagree about an editor's right to delay non-breaking news. It came out really quickly. Let us not conflate delay with supression. I'm unsure the impact the story has had if any addressing this henious situation. Be clear I hate CECOT and all it repressents. It brings shame to our nation. We do not know why Bari delayed the piece, nor do we know why she fired the coorespondent. Perhaps there was insubordination we just don't know. When a new boss enters the picture terminations are common. I try not to attribute malice when there are numerous other explanations. We can both agree Bari is unquallified for this role, and is learning on the job. Using occam's razor this is my rationale for offering her a little grace. As I said we should keep an eye on her, especially with the possible merge with CNN. We can not risk losing the 4th estate. But I still worry the notion of innocent until proven guilty is waning. These days we are so quick judge and to bring out the pitchforks. Even you with me; a thoughtful guy with a different perspective whom you don't know. I love diversity of thought. I love to debate. Its the only way we are going to solve important issues. I stand corrected about 60Ms ratings, and I will watch an episode tomorrow.

ktb8402799's avatar

The editors authority to delay reporting is not the issue here. Of course she has the authority to do that. What matters here, for purposes of evaluating the charge of political bias and unethical journalistic practices, is the reason for exercising that authority to hold back the reporting, and the reason proffered by Bari herself was fundamentally invalid, unethical, and inconsistent with professional standards of journalism. Just because you have the authority to do something doesn’t mean you can’t exercise it for improper purposes when you’re a political hack.

The impact of the story is likewise irrelevant to the issue at hand. And yes, in fact we do know why she says she delayed the piece because she wrote it out in an email that is linked in the article. Now you’ve gone from giving her the unwarranted benefit of the doubt to denying basic known facts about what she did and why she claimed she did it.

As for Occam’s razor, application of that principle requires that you seek out the simplest answer by eliminating as many assumptions as possible. I actually invite you to apply it, because you are not doing so here (“perhaps there was insubordination”). She fired two correspondents she had conflicts with over her improper editorial interference. This is one of them and this was the conflict. Application of Occam’s razor tells us that this conflict is why she was fired. Malice is also unnecessary to the matter at hand, incompetence and lack of qualifications leads to the same conclusion. Bari Weiss is a political hack who has never worked as an actual journalist and she has no business running CBS News or 60 minutes. This sort of political bias and interference is the natural result and the 4th estate will not survive people like yourself who cannot recognize the assault taking place on it for what it is.

Gert Mann's avatar

Very wealthy people and corporations buy themselves media in order to manufacture consent for their own class interests, often at the expense of their viewers. This way the interests of the very wealthy become the status quo 'common sense Centrism'.

Media become the instruments of the wealthy whereby culture war issues are magnified and tribalized, their enemies are 'othered', and scapegoats are targeted to stir up emotions and divisions which distract us from recognizing this as class warfare.

And here we are.

Shelfie's avatar

Bari will reduce CNN to CBS status: a once preeminent news organization, now reduced to doing whatever does not offend Donald Trump. That's the "breaking story". IOW, Nothing more to see here, folks. Now put the kids to bed and say goodnight, CNN.

Dale Oak's avatar

Newsflash, 2028 — Newly-appointed head of the Paramount-Warner’s Food Network, Bari Weiss, is stirring controversy into her recipe for the Network. Weiss fired Guy Fieri and Ina Garten, accusing them of “creating woke desserts.”

Weiss accused Garten, the Barefoot Contessa and former OMB staffer under “Marxist” President Jimmy Carter, of not properly separating egg white from the yolk. Said Weiss, “the woke libs may have outlawed racial segregation, but the whites cannot mix with the yolks.” OMB Director and Project 2025 contributor Russell Vought praised the move, stating, “OMB began its decline under the Jimmy Carter-Bert Lance-Barefoot Contessa regime. We’ve worked hard to make OMB great again by hiring only committed MAGAs who wear shoes and love to eat cheeseburgers. We need people who don’t mind seeing ketchup dripping down the walls.”

Weiss said that Guy Fieri was let go for stating that he would “cook for any President as a sign of respect for the office.” According to Weiss, “we cannot tolerate any nonpartisan chefs in our presence — we expect Food Network stars to have complete devotion to everyone’s favorite President, Donald J. Trump.”

Weiss made these moves just days after she was assigned by David Ellison to lead the Food Network. “Bari did a fantastic job leading CBS News and CNN, and since CBS News and CNN have been dissolved due to actual news no longer mattering, she can cook up her secret sauce for the Food Network,” said Ellison.

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John Fitzpatrick's avatar

So do we need the term "Weiss-washing" ?

DJ's avatar

I've always been suspicious of Bari, but willing to hear her out. That changed for me when she had Sarah Longwell and David French on her podcast and said that she founding covering Trump to be "boring." Really? The Free Press can't investigate some of his claims because he's boring? Whether he really (as he claimed) to reject Project 2025 despite having the creators of it at senior levels of his campaign?

Frau Katze's avatar

Some people only like culture war topics like making fun of people who put their pronouns on their business card. It’s not something I’d do, but it doesn’t strike me as a big deal.

Weiss is like that. Plus she’s fanatically pro-Israel.

Ronald Stack's avatar

Like so many others in the media, Bari Weiss got bought. Lots of people are willing to get bought in the Trump era, but few after making a second career out of protecting intellectual freedom. I kind of thought that, apart from JD Vance, Elise Stefanik was the gold-plated standard for the self-serving 180; I think she has to yield her crown to Bari Weiss.

mollymoe222's avatar

I have no interest in watching CBS News; nor will I watch CNN once the Ellisons take a hatchet to it. Their problem is that there just aren’t enough MAGAs for Fox, CNN, CBS, and the other MAGA-like news stations. And I have cancelled Paramount. I don’t want any Ellison/Weiss programming

Fortunately, there are plenty of independent, reliable sources out there if you look for them.

Tim_TEC's avatar

The thing about the MAGA takeover of media is the insidiousness of the operation. It's sporadic. They'll kill a story here, and pump up a MAGA favorite there. It can be a major case of omission, never report the bad news about the MAGA side. Always putting the thumb on the right side of the scale. There's usually not one big thing people can point to, with the exception of Weiss trying to kill the CECOT story, it's mostly a gradual erosion of kosher journalism.

It's like when termites eat up a house as they slowly destroy it. They take their time.

Bari Weiss is a termite.

Alan Vanneman's avatar

What is "interesting" is that Larry Ellison went on this media purchasing spree largely, I believe, to shore up U.S. support for the Likudist agenda in Israel. Weiss was largely a pawn, or perhaps rook, in his game, though she obviously has a vague anti-woke though responsibly lesbian agenda of her own. But now the multiple disasters that Netanyahu has engineered is cratering support for Israel regardless of anything CBS or CNN can do. Worst of all, Trump has clearly gotten tired of Bibi, leaving American Likudists like Weiss and Ellison with nowhere to turn.

Frau Katze's avatar

It will be fascinating to see how The Free Press spins the Iran surrender (my subscription has lapsed),

Alan Vanneman's avatar

So has mine. The "rage" on the Trump tolerant right, like the National Review and the Dispatch, and the Free Press, is definitely entertaining.

Frau Katze's avatar

That’s definitely part of it. The Ellisons and Weiss are very pro-Israel and Weiss’s “Free Press” has never criticized Netanyahu in the few years I was a subscriber.

Trashscientist's avatar

If you're watching CNN. You're part of the problem in America.

Rich Wingerter's avatar

Possibly. I avoid them. They are part of the reason Criminal Trump is in office. They were leaders in showing his empty podium in anticipation he'd have a rally.

Trashscientist's avatar

Televising the empty podiums, or Trumps speeches at all, prove we are country with ZERO ideas, and ZERO initiative to fix anything. This country sucks.

McRob1234's avatar

I get the feeling that the intended end goal of the merger and Weiss's leadership is to make both CNN and CBS empty, vacuous, and unwatchable affairs that end up financially imploding without any replacements. The point is to make sure that the unethical affairs of the wealthy not only don't get reported but that there is no one around to report them.