I lived in the Twin Cities for most of my life. For decades the community, led by churches, has taken seriously the Biblical directive to welcome the stranger and has welcomed and sponsored wave after wave of refugees. Hmong, Somalis, Karen people and others have been supported by the good Christian people of Minnesota. I was a member of a church that sponsored refugee families.
Now, the racists of the Trump administration are harassing, assaulting and terrorizing people who have been embraced by decent Minnesotans and those Minnesotans are standing up for their friends. Doing the right thing is still popular in Minnesota.
I suppose it would be too much to ask that the Trump supporters who call themselves Christian take the example from the good people of Minnesota.
In a sea of insanity a river of hope emerges. Thanks for noting how what used to be called the 4th estate has abdicated it's role in democratic countries
I hear your point but see it differently. The major press has been defeated through actual lawsuits and threats of lawsuits. They now try to be very, very careful.
This is my take. They are yet another sad industry that cowers to Trump. On one hand though, his demonization of so many media outlets is one of his enduring erosions. CNN has moderated greatly on Trump but is forever branded now as some hyper leftwing propaganda.
Thank you for that great reporting from Minneapolis. I believe Minneapolis, and Chicago before that, show how citizens rise spontaneously against blatant ICE aggression. Drumpf is playing this to invoke the Insurrection Act, but when ordinary people get really pissed off about injustice and their fellow citymates, do not ever underestimate the power and anger of the collective.
Minnesota is setting an example for the rest of us. Just saw the clergy protest and ICE arresting clergy who are kneeling and praying. Every day more people stand up and say no, not in my name.
This Chicagoan who was on the streets for the entirety of Midway Blitz tips her hat to the people of Minnesota. We stand in solidarity with you and with absolute respect and reverence for your resistance, community, and actions.
I think the answer is a lot simpler than where you went:
1) journalism has gotten stupid.
2) how journalism is being taught at the best universities fetishizes an idea of objectivity that rewards lies and dissembling and
3) the hollowing out of local news, particularly newspapers, created incentives for the best and the brightest in our generation (BY 67-80) to do anything else other than journalism.
As a first instance, I left for college in 1988, intending to major in journalism. By my freshman year of college, I had published straight news and opinion in 6 newspapers.
I was at one of the better J schools in the west, and looking at it midway through my sophomore year I recognized that newspapers all over the country were shuttering and pros with 30 years of experience were taking jobs for 25-30k/year.
I didn’t see a viable path to the job and success I wanted and changed my major to economics. This is a microcosm of the larger economy of news in the early to late 90s.
As a result, guys like Gene Robinson and Mike Barnacle who were our age never got into news. And the people who did, were of a lesser caliber than the generation before us.
The result is a hollowing out of people capable of doing real reporting and more susceptible to source journalism and the cult of both sides say different things.
We’ve outsourced the idea of judgment and three generations of right wing politicians complaining of liberal bias has made people afraid of their own shadows.
We go through cycles and today’s news environment is not dissimilar to the last major disruption and the outbreak of yellow journalism. We can do better, and when the changes have been assimilated and the market has sorted out winners and losers and there is some stability again, we likely will. But for now we have to call it out like you did here and be vigilant about calling the balls and strikes and holding people accountable
I'm past watching, listening, reading MSM, couple of exceptions, (Guardian, MSNOW, PBS). ALL they do is yell Breaking News every 15 minutes. We're disgusted that they AND Congress have no Balls, spine and voice to OUST THIS immoral sick guy! Past time for litany of What he's done. The whole lot of them need to be ousted. By any means necessary! I'd Rather have Bill Clinton and his lack of honesty than these crooks, felons, dirtbags killing our constitution, country.
This craziness has been going on for a decade. The fact that the press cannot figure out how to cover Trump accurately has alot to do with laziness and the fact news orgs are more concerned with money and ratings than truth.
Media organizations are repeatedly falling into a trap Trump and his minions set. It's a bait and switch. At Davos, he distracted from his awful, insulting comments about NATO, our allies and their leaders, and his lies about several subjects by getting the press to focus on the "I won't use force" and "we've reached a framework agreement" statements -- which, as JVL points out, can't be treated as fact or policy.
We see this same game repeated over and over, with the White House then gaslighting the public when Trump reverses himself.
Charlie Brown (media) keeps trying to kick the football Lucy (Trump) is holding, expecting a different outcome.
I am so heartened to hear that the population is stepping up. It is a SHAME that it falls on the citizens to make the noise and not our elected leaders. But I am encouraged that plenty of our population isn't being deterred and is trying to help even more. Authoritarianism grows when poeople are silent and afraid. Hearing of that many stepping out? It goes to show how many are still willing to do the RIGHT thing
I just want to point out that Margaret Killjoy is also an accomplished musician and the driving force behind, among others, the black metal project Feminazgul, if you like that kind of thing.
I have been discouraged by the actions of my Senator Young backing away from a war power resolution he co-authored and the smugness of Vance in Minneapolis spewing lies. But this reporter has given me hope. I want to defend our Bill of Rights. The world my grandsons live in should not be determined by a whackadoodle narcissist.
Vance is so shady, so sycophantic, such a dumb ass. Plus, Bondi went to Minneapolis. If they try to arrest Walz or the mayor, there will be an uprising of even greater proportions.
I lived in the Twin Cities for most of my life. For decades the community, led by churches, has taken seriously the Biblical directive to welcome the stranger and has welcomed and sponsored wave after wave of refugees. Hmong, Somalis, Karen people and others have been supported by the good Christian people of Minnesota. I was a member of a church that sponsored refugee families.
Now, the racists of the Trump administration are harassing, assaulting and terrorizing people who have been embraced by decent Minnesotans and those Minnesotans are standing up for their friends. Doing the right thing is still popular in Minnesota.
I suppose it would be too much to ask that the Trump supporters who call themselves Christian take the example from the good people of Minnesota.
In a sea of insanity a river of hope emerges. Thanks for noting how what used to be called the 4th estate has abdicated it's role in democratic countries
I hear your point but see it differently. The major press has been defeated through actual lawsuits and threats of lawsuits. They now try to be very, very careful.
This is my take. They are yet another sad industry that cowers to Trump. On one hand though, his demonization of so many media outlets is one of his enduring erosions. CNN has moderated greatly on Trump but is forever branded now as some hyper leftwing propaganda.
Thank you for that great reporting from Minneapolis. I believe Minneapolis, and Chicago before that, show how citizens rise spontaneously against blatant ICE aggression. Drumpf is playing this to invoke the Insurrection Act, but when ordinary people get really pissed off about injustice and their fellow citymates, do not ever underestimate the power and anger of the collective.
Minnesota is setting an example for the rest of us. Just saw the clergy protest and ICE arresting clergy who are kneeling and praying. Every day more people stand up and say no, not in my name.
This Chicagoan who was on the streets for the entirety of Midway Blitz tips her hat to the people of Minnesota. We stand in solidarity with you and with absolute respect and reverence for your resistance, community, and actions.
I think the answer is a lot simpler than where you went:
1) journalism has gotten stupid.
2) how journalism is being taught at the best universities fetishizes an idea of objectivity that rewards lies and dissembling and
3) the hollowing out of local news, particularly newspapers, created incentives for the best and the brightest in our generation (BY 67-80) to do anything else other than journalism.
As a first instance, I left for college in 1988, intending to major in journalism. By my freshman year of college, I had published straight news and opinion in 6 newspapers.
I was at one of the better J schools in the west, and looking at it midway through my sophomore year I recognized that newspapers all over the country were shuttering and pros with 30 years of experience were taking jobs for 25-30k/year.
I didn’t see a viable path to the job and success I wanted and changed my major to economics. This is a microcosm of the larger economy of news in the early to late 90s.
As a result, guys like Gene Robinson and Mike Barnacle who were our age never got into news. And the people who did, were of a lesser caliber than the generation before us.
The result is a hollowing out of people capable of doing real reporting and more susceptible to source journalism and the cult of both sides say different things.
We’ve outsourced the idea of judgment and three generations of right wing politicians complaining of liberal bias has made people afraid of their own shadows.
We go through cycles and today’s news environment is not dissimilar to the last major disruption and the outbreak of yellow journalism. We can do better, and when the changes have been assimilated and the market has sorted out winners and losers and there is some stability again, we likely will. But for now we have to call it out like you did here and be vigilant about calling the balls and strikes and holding people accountable
I'm past watching, listening, reading MSM, couple of exceptions, (Guardian, MSNOW, PBS). ALL they do is yell Breaking News every 15 minutes. We're disgusted that they AND Congress have no Balls, spine and voice to OUST THIS immoral sick guy! Past time for litany of What he's done. The whole lot of them need to be ousted. By any means necessary! I'd Rather have Bill Clinton and his lack of honesty than these crooks, felons, dirtbags killing our constitution, country.
This craziness has been going on for a decade. The fact that the press cannot figure out how to cover Trump accurately has alot to do with laziness and the fact news orgs are more concerned with money and ratings than truth.
Media organizations are repeatedly falling into a trap Trump and his minions set. It's a bait and switch. At Davos, he distracted from his awful, insulting comments about NATO, our allies and their leaders, and his lies about several subjects by getting the press to focus on the "I won't use force" and "we've reached a framework agreement" statements -- which, as JVL points out, can't be treated as fact or policy.
We see this same game repeated over and over, with the White House then gaslighting the public when Trump reverses himself.
Charlie Brown (media) keeps trying to kick the football Lucy (Trump) is holding, expecting a different outcome.
I am so heartened to hear that the population is stepping up. It is a SHAME that it falls on the citizens to make the noise and not our elected leaders. But I am encouraged that plenty of our population isn't being deterred and is trying to help even more. Authoritarianism grows when poeople are silent and afraid. Hearing of that many stepping out? It goes to show how many are still willing to do the RIGHT thing
Love hearing about the resistance in Minneapolis. "We are going to win" warms my heart & gives me a glimmer of hope. Thanks JVL!
I love that JVL listens to BtB!!
I just want to point out that Margaret Killjoy is also an accomplished musician and the driving force behind, among others, the black metal project Feminazgul, if you like that kind of thing.
JVL you are my spirit animal
Everything you say is always spot on
The media for whatever reason whether it’s cowardice money
I don’t understand capitulation they just don’t get it
I have been discouraged by the actions of my Senator Young backing away from a war power resolution he co-authored and the smugness of Vance in Minneapolis spewing lies. But this reporter has given me hope. I want to defend our Bill of Rights. The world my grandsons live in should not be determined by a whackadoodle narcissist.
Vance is so shady, so sycophantic, such a dumb ass. Plus, Bondi went to Minneapolis. If they try to arrest Walz or the mayor, there will be an uprising of even greater proportions.