Not sure why you’re arguing about this. Are you silent generation?
I’m a boomer and was 15 at the time and another boomer sibling was 19 at the time - so plenty old enough to march. My 2 silent generation siblings were 23 and 25, young but adults.
I said that I didn't think credit to Civil rights belonged to any particular generation, meaning it belonged to any members of all the generations that were persuaded the blacks deserved better treatment. My parents were the greatest generation and deserve credit for so so much. But too many of their children (silent and boomer generations) are trying to destroy it now. I gave both types I’m watching do that for 8 years now. Grievance grievance grievance is all they have for the wonderful lives they have but seem not to see. Thank goodness most of their children think differently, and vote accordingly.
I listened to the interview several times - I really think Trump said, "It was the apple of his eye," as in Ukraine. It doesn't help that the ex Prez chews his word salad with his mouth open, but on this one - I think his critics need to slow down the audio.
I’m actually writing to comment on the afternoon podcast, in which Charlie and Mona argued that one reason to fear Biden deciding not to run is that a D primary would almost certainly result in Kamala Harris getting the nomination. I don’t agree with this at all. First, there’s no way she clears the field. She’s just not popular enough with the broad D electorate. And people who would be far stronger candidates would get in the race and almost certainly run stronger campaigns. In 2020, she didn’t even make it to Iowa. Sure, some people would vote for her because she’s Black or because she’s a woman, but if Gretchen Whitmer or Cory Booker or Gavin Newsome or Jared Polis or Chris Murphy got in they would probably clean her clock. I think Whitmer is the strongest of all of them and would probably get 400 electoral votes against Trump. The nominee would be chosen by voters, and at least these days, D voters care more about winning than whose turn it is.
There is no basis (and no standing) for a challenge to Trump’s candidacy based on the 14th until his name appears on a general election ballot. You could be a 19 year old drag queen born in Moldova and “run” for President. I’m pretty sure you could even be nominated. That’s party business. The Rs could nominate a ham sandwich. (It wouldn’t be the first time.) But you could not serve. So the idea that by the time Trump is nominated it’s too late for the courts to rule him ineligible is kinda ridiculous, since there’s really no actionable controversy until late in the game. Catch 22?? He can’t be disqualified until he’s nominated and by the time he’s nominated it’s too late to disqualify him? Bullshit!!
Donald Trump is disqualified from ever again serving in a position of trust in the US under the clear language of the 14th Amendment, which supersedes all other laws and statutes and requires no conviction in a court of law. On the contrary. The disqualification may be *removed* by Congress, but Congress has no role in its imposition. It is self-enforcing, as are the age and native born qualifications.
Otherwise Arnold Schwarzenegger Would be President. Or maybe AOC. But for damn sure, not The Donald.
I attended a potluck last weekend where the host had what I can only describe as an altar to Trump on her mantel piece. The next day I was handing off a gag toilet brush, with Trumps likeness on the handle and the brush part being his orange hair, to a friend who wanted it when she said, "My sister is going to love this! But my family is split in two. My other sister loves Trump. She has an altar to Trump." These people actually worship this man. Wow.
I am not into podcasts...does this line mean that someone is still hoping that some Democrats will save the republic from the Republican MAGAs or break the fever? Had Barnes and Ryan in OH won, if dems controlled the house or any other combination that gave a filibuster proof majority maybe. But Dems have folks who put self over party AND country to (though in considerably smaller numbers), not gonna find the savior there.
Plus Sen Schumer could announce he found a way to get Putin to back off and apologize along with a way to rebulid Maui for $17,000.99....and the leading news would still be "Trump takes on Fani"
That poll. Someone get me a drink. We are way past screwed. Maybe the return of the Dark Ages will help us accept the doomsday scenario of our burning planet a little more calmly. Dark, I know, but who can read that and NOT feel dark.
Agree with French that it's a little late for the SC to agree with state Secretaries who disqualify Trump based on Section 3 of the 14th Amendment, and for that reason they might not. But the argument of conservative legal scholars Baud and Paulsen is, IMO, quite strong, and should be pursued, regardless of what the SC does with it.
I blame the City and State of New York. They had DECADES to convict him of felonies. They dropped the ball. Just another example of our "two tiered " justice system.
The conservative media infrastructure built themselves a "world engine," to borrow from "Man of Steel." They built it over the last 40 years of conditioning conservatives to distrust the mainstream media and by painting liberals and minorities as enemies of America. They just always thought that one of THEM would be the one behind the controls of this machine, never dreaming that they were building themselves a world destroyer that was uniquely set up for someone such as Trump to come along and make it his.
"...Mark Meadows has told special counsel Jack Smith's investigators that he could not recall Trump ever ordering, or even discussing, declassifying broad sets of classified materials before leaving the White House, nor was he aware of any "standing order" from Trump authorizing the automatic declassification of materials taken out of the Oval Office"
And "...Mike Pence said on Sunday that he knew of no widespread declassification of documents by President Donald J. Trump when they were in the White House together."
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Are you conflating two different articles -- Luttig/Tribe's and Baude/Paulsen's?
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Not sure why you’re arguing about this. Are you silent generation?
I’m a boomer and was 15 at the time and another boomer sibling was 19 at the time - so plenty old enough to march. My 2 silent generation siblings were 23 and 25, young but adults.
I said that I didn't think credit to Civil rights belonged to any particular generation, meaning it belonged to any members of all the generations that were persuaded the blacks deserved better treatment. My parents were the greatest generation and deserve credit for so so much. But too many of their children (silent and boomer generations) are trying to destroy it now. I gave both types I’m watching do that for 8 years now. Grievance grievance grievance is all they have for the wonderful lives they have but seem not to see. Thank goodness most of their children think differently, and vote accordingly.
I listened to the interview several times - I really think Trump said, "It was the apple of his eye," as in Ukraine. It doesn't help that the ex Prez chews his word salad with his mouth open, but on this one - I think his critics need to slow down the audio.
Trump is telegraphing—he wants to fly out to Russia. Are you listening?
I’m actually writing to comment on the afternoon podcast, in which Charlie and Mona argued that one reason to fear Biden deciding not to run is that a D primary would almost certainly result in Kamala Harris getting the nomination. I don’t agree with this at all. First, there’s no way she clears the field. She’s just not popular enough with the broad D electorate. And people who would be far stronger candidates would get in the race and almost certainly run stronger campaigns. In 2020, she didn’t even make it to Iowa. Sure, some people would vote for her because she’s Black or because she’s a woman, but if Gretchen Whitmer or Cory Booker or Gavin Newsome or Jared Polis or Chris Murphy got in they would probably clean her clock. I think Whitmer is the strongest of all of them and would probably get 400 electoral votes against Trump. The nominee would be chosen by voters, and at least these days, D voters care more about winning than whose turn it is.
There is no basis (and no standing) for a challenge to Trump’s candidacy based on the 14th until his name appears on a general election ballot. You could be a 19 year old drag queen born in Moldova and “run” for President. I’m pretty sure you could even be nominated. That’s party business. The Rs could nominate a ham sandwich. (It wouldn’t be the first time.) But you could not serve. So the idea that by the time Trump is nominated it’s too late for the courts to rule him ineligible is kinda ridiculous, since there’s really no actionable controversy until late in the game. Catch 22?? He can’t be disqualified until he’s nominated and by the time he’s nominated it’s too late to disqualify him? Bullshit!!
Donald Trump is disqualified from ever again serving in a position of trust in the US under the clear language of the 14th Amendment, which supersedes all other laws and statutes and requires no conviction in a court of law. On the contrary. The disqualification may be *removed* by Congress, but Congress has no role in its imposition. It is self-enforcing, as are the age and native born qualifications.
Otherwise Arnold Schwarzenegger Would be President. Or maybe AOC. But for damn sure, not The Donald.
I attended a potluck last weekend where the host had what I can only describe as an altar to Trump on her mantel piece. The next day I was handing off a gag toilet brush, with Trumps likeness on the handle and the brush part being his orange hair, to a friend who wanted it when she said, "My sister is going to love this! But my family is split in two. My other sister loves Trump. She has an altar to Trump." These people actually worship this man. Wow.
"Plus, the Democrats’ Senate leadership is MIA"?
I am not into podcasts...does this line mean that someone is still hoping that some Democrats will save the republic from the Republican MAGAs or break the fever? Had Barnes and Ryan in OH won, if dems controlled the house or any other combination that gave a filibuster proof majority maybe. But Dems have folks who put self over party AND country to (though in considerably smaller numbers), not gonna find the savior there.
Plus Sen Schumer could announce he found a way to get Putin to back off and apologize along with a way to rebulid Maui for $17,000.99....and the leading news would still be "Trump takes on Fani"
That poll. Someone get me a drink. We are way past screwed. Maybe the return of the Dark Ages will help us accept the doomsday scenario of our burning planet a little more calmly. Dark, I know, but who can read that and NOT feel dark.
Agree with French that it's a little late for the SC to agree with state Secretaries who disqualify Trump based on Section 3 of the 14th Amendment, and for that reason they might not. But the argument of conservative legal scholars Baud and Paulsen is, IMO, quite strong, and should be pursued, regardless of what the SC does with it.
The "apple of my eye" comment is delusional beyond belief.
I blame the City and State of New York. They had DECADES to convict him of felonies. They dropped the ball. Just another example of our "two tiered " justice system.
Hesitate to change on "on the eve of an election"? Question. When are we NOT at the eve of an election. For our sins.
Are the rats jumping the ship? Oh, no, wait, memory loss. What a bunch of wimps.
The conservative media infrastructure built themselves a "world engine," to borrow from "Man of Steel." They built it over the last 40 years of conditioning conservatives to distrust the mainstream media and by painting liberals and minorities as enemies of America. They just always thought that one of THEM would be the one behind the controls of this machine, never dreaming that they were building themselves a world destroyer that was uniquely set up for someone such as Trump to come along and make it his.
"...Mark Meadows has told special counsel Jack Smith's investigators that he could not recall Trump ever ordering, or even discussing, declassifying broad sets of classified materials before leaving the White House, nor was he aware of any "standing order" from Trump authorizing the automatic declassification of materials taken out of the Oval Office"
And "...Mike Pence said on Sunday that he knew of no widespread declassification of documents by President Donald J. Trump when they were in the White House together."
Well duh. Donald Trump did it *with his mind*.
Case closed.