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George in Atlanta's avatar

There is nothing here not to like, it's fun for the whole family! It's a window into what's happening at scale inside of MAGA. As it becomes more concentrated and circles its wagons tighter, these flame wars explode, with everybody bellowing about how 'pure' they are compared to all the 'pretenders' surrounding them. Too many rats in a shrinking space, somebody's getting eaten.

There have been variants on this for quite a while. There was some 'Alpha Male' influencer (Nick Fuentes) who blurted out that dating women and wanting intimacy with them was 'gay'. Combine that with the prevalence of closeted gay men among the GOP Congress, and you've got all the makings of a chaotic slap-fest.

I am so here for it.

Lynnette Van Epps-Smith's avatar

This will be a very interesting play out here at the Sturgis Rally this August. One other good reason to just get the heck out of town.

Shannon's avatar

Maybe get a tip to Jordan Klepper from the Daily Show. He might get some good material about this predicament.

Nick Perri's avatar

JFC... MAGA are the dumbest people on the planet. Ever.

Alison Kelley's avatar

Minor detail. BOTH HD and Indian websites show their manufacturing hubs and supply chains are the SAME. Both companies manufacture and assemble in U.S. facilities but source " some components, such as electrical parts, tires, and brakes" from international suppliers. The most notable difference I found is the Indian bikes are assembled by hand, whereas HD doesn't specify, which probably means they use automation.

I get annoyed by posts like this that put so much energy into an argument without bringing forth pertinent facts - such as, both bike lines are as American made as one can expect these days, except that Indian's hand assembly likely supports more jobs and a greater skill set.

Sara Smith's avatar

I’m thinking of my friend Bill (RIP). Always dressed all in black, always rode a Harley. His weight was the cause for both - at his heaviest, he was well over 300 (if not 400) lbs. He thought he looked thinner in black (maybe, but he still didn’t look thin) and said that a Harley was the only motorcycle big enough for him. Wherever he is now, he’s laughing his ass off at this. (And I’m thinking of the Proud “cookie” Boys, who - from what Will and Sam were saying - wouldn’t be able to fit on an Indian, either.)

Ray Van Cleve's avatar

Dunces of Anarchy is - on multiple levels - so good

senatorpjt's avatar

Makes me wish that Subaru made motorcycles so I could buy one of those.

Shannon's avatar

Definitely a “woke” motorcycle.

Tim VT's avatar

Harley should lean in- I’m ready for my Harley e-bike.

Capsaicin's avatar

Seems an easy things to defuse: "GOP Senator/Congressman X implied to be 'GAY' for enjoying riding his/her Harley too much, by MAGA influencer Y." or some similar anodyne logical connection, with all the evidence links.

Steve Shaffer's avatar

If they want American buy a Honda Gold Wing, Made in a red state (Ohio)…. I’d love to see the money trail om this… Come on Harley sue the daylights outta the marketing broker for this

rlritt's avatar

Carolwood just bought Indian this year. Maybe this a marketing ploy to denigrate Harleys and ptomote Infian motor cycles.

Steve Premo's avatar

Indian Motorcycles was defunct from 1953 until its resurrection by venture capitalists in about 2015. This current activity is no doubt from the venture capital firm Carlwood LP, which acquired it last February. 125 years of greatness my foot!

Chris Daly's avatar

Right? I'm not even a motorcycle person but already knew Indian went out of business decades ago and was eventually revived for the brand name nostalgia.

The Blockhead Chronicles's avatar

These people do realize that Indian has gone out of business several times and is currently owned by a California hedge fund, right?

(I know. I've answered my own question.)

Mike's avatar

What a joke!

Spartan Squirrel's avatar

The hidden world of money driven opinion is such a strange one. I wonder who is behind this tidbit.

A cursory search indicates Indian is under new ownership as of Feb 2026 -- having been acquired by Carolwood LP after being owned by Polaris for decades. Carolwood doesn't appear to be a big right wing contributor of any kind - actually, neither owner seems to make much in the way of significant political contributions at all. Funny though - one of the owners did donate 100 dollars to Warren for President. Hardly the right's idea of a bastion of Americana.