WHY NO COMMENT ? must be afraid to make any ? to bad ---for them ! just more of the SAME, and I'm sorry for them, but all cowards will have the SAME END. so who cares ? what do the cowards want ? , HOW ABOUT "DEATH"---sounds good to me, after they are COWARDS and so is the "Rapethepublicans G.O.P. party", and DEATH is to good for them, and I like that sound. DEATH DEATH DEATH DEATH-yeh !
The normie GOP is dead by auto de fe. But they should not rest in peace. They knew better. They could have done something. They could have resisted. The oath of office they took freely carried a duty to defend the Constitution. I wish for them the fate of the damned in Hieronymus Bosch's masterpiece.
Charlie, Mona Charen's piece today brings me very close to leaving The Bulwark. It's a ludicrous simplification of the situation in Israel and Gaza that is not worthy of what you are trying to do with The Bulwark.
I won't take too much time explaining because you're a bright fellow: For her to simplify things to "two sides," the righteous Israelis and the evil Palestinians, is disgusting and shameful.
Hamas is evil, and all the suffering the people of Gaza endure (and will continue to endure) should be laid squarely at their feet. I say that as a Palestinian American (the first generation not born in Ramallah in 500 years).
Hamas is responsible for this horror. Full stop. And they committed these atrocities knowing full well it would lead to incomprehensible suffering for the people of Gaza. That's how evil they are.
That truth does not justify her (frankly racist) claim that "the Palestinian people" are to blame for this terrible situation, any more than it would be fair for me to claim that "the Israeli people" are to blame for atrocities committed against Palestinians by violent settlers or the IDF (see Sabra and Shatila, 1982).
But to Mona, every Palestinian is Hamas. Mona believes that the millions of Palestinian refugees who have been trapped in a tiny strip of desert for years are to blame for not picking themselves up by their sandals and shaking off the radical Islamic terror group dominating every aspect of their lives. For shame, Palestinians!
If she were being honest, she'd have said the quiet part out loud: She thinks the Palestinians dying under the Israeli assault deserve what they get because she doesn't just think Hamas is evil, she thinks anyone who lives in Gaza or the West Bank is. She hates Palestinians and wants your readers to know that it's okay for them to hate Palestinians, too.
Are you okay with that, Charlie? Because if you are, maybe The Bulwark isn't where my media dollars should go.
Ukraine held overwhelming support among Americans when they were attacked by Russia. So, it seems, does Israel. Biden has shown he is a strong supporter of Israel. Trump's relationship with Bibi seems to have fallen off. I wonder how long it will take for Trump to turn his party against Israel, as he did Ukraine, and make it another partisan litmus test? Mona claims we have the memory of goldfish, she should add that our moral character is as fishy as well.
It's too bad that most of the regularly watched or listened to media will not have a good word to say about Biden. It's depressing. That they could still have any loyalty to Trump whose pettiness in holding in to secret documents may have given Hamas an opportunity to attack Israel. Maybe that's why he said the attackers were smart. How can any decent person support him?
As I thought, Democrats are SALIVATING over Jordan being Speaker and already have attack lines up in every Biden leaning district where an R voted for Jordan. Jordan is a gift to Democrats and he is insisting that Democrats accept the gift. Hard.
"Normie Republican" = Common, buisness-owning Republican (COBOR). There weren't enough of these Chamber of Commerce, country-club folks to sustain political power, so they brought in the racist and religious radicals who shared their opposition to Great Society Democrats. That provided the opening for the media personalities to control the agenda, as cultural crusades are easy to manipulate. Now the COBORs have no power. They do not control the agenda and are outnumbered by the racists and zealots. But they can't leave the Party (of the Old South) because the Democrats' agenda (as they believe it) is a clear and present danger to their wealth and lifestyle. So, as my radical-liberal Swiss instructor of American government in college noted, it's the elites who control the agenda - but not so much the economically elite, anymore.
20 holdouts who could not allow Jim Jordan to be the voice of the party -- at least on the first ballot. That's two more than those who run in Biden-won districts. Jordan has a lot of enemies, for good reason. 20 out of 220 ain't much, but it might be enough to keep the worst destroyer, the pervert protector, the insurrectionist, from being two heartbeats away from being president.
RE: header : "The Deep Roots of the Left’s Deafening Silence on Hamas."
STOP WITH THIS BULLSHIT!!!!
I am sick and tired of the easy push to claim that "Lefties" are not speaking out against Hamas. (I AM NOT EVEN A LEFTY - Left of center, yes, but not a "card carrying member of the Left" that red-blooded, "true" Americans on the right despise and use as a political piñata.)
I expect better from The Bulwark" than to simply push this bullshit story, when scores of "left-leaning" pols, pundits, and concerned people are screaming from the rafters about the brutality of Hamas.
Hey, Charlie, you're on the right. how would you like to be grouped in with MAGA lunatics, who are also considered on the right.
Yes, I did...but carrying that headline is one of the on-going slams on the "Left" that has been constant stream since this situation arose.
Three members of Congress pussyfooted around on condemning Hamas...what about the other members of the Democratic "left who have leaped to condemn Hamas.
My point is that leading with that header is as aggreges as pidgin-holing all conservative "Righties" as being in league with its lunatic fringe.
I invite you to "nuance party" and realize that headlines have impact.
The gutless caucus of "Moderate" "normie" Republicans are falling like bowling pins. Since none of these morons has probably studied history, I present to them exhibit A in political courage - Lyndon Johnson putting all of his political capital behind passing the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts. When advised that he lost the South for the Dems for many generations, he replied What's the Presidency for? A corollary questions to these Cucks for Crazy is what is your office for? Apparently it's simply to hold onto rather than use it for even a modest amount of good. Someone should tell these "normie" losers that you don't get brownie points for bitching in private while caving in public
Your first three bullet points made me want to throw up. (Not your fault, Charlie)
WHY NO COMMENT ? must be afraid to make any ? to bad ---for them ! just more of the SAME, and I'm sorry for them, but all cowards will have the SAME END. so who cares ? what do the cowards want ? , HOW ABOUT "DEATH"---sounds good to me, after they are COWARDS and so is the "Rapethepublicans G.O.P. party", and DEATH is to good for them, and I like that sound. DEATH DEATH DEATH DEATH-yeh !
The normie GOP is dead by auto de fe. But they should not rest in peace. They knew better. They could have done something. They could have resisted. The oath of office they took freely carried a duty to defend the Constitution. I wish for them the fate of the damned in Hieronymus Bosch's masterpiece.
Charlie, Mona Charen's piece today brings me very close to leaving The Bulwark. It's a ludicrous simplification of the situation in Israel and Gaza that is not worthy of what you are trying to do with The Bulwark.
I won't take too much time explaining because you're a bright fellow: For her to simplify things to "two sides," the righteous Israelis and the evil Palestinians, is disgusting and shameful.
Hamas is evil, and all the suffering the people of Gaza endure (and will continue to endure) should be laid squarely at their feet. I say that as a Palestinian American (the first generation not born in Ramallah in 500 years).
Hamas is responsible for this horror. Full stop. And they committed these atrocities knowing full well it would lead to incomprehensible suffering for the people of Gaza. That's how evil they are.
That truth does not justify her (frankly racist) claim that "the Palestinian people" are to blame for this terrible situation, any more than it would be fair for me to claim that "the Israeli people" are to blame for atrocities committed against Palestinians by violent settlers or the IDF (see Sabra and Shatila, 1982).
But to Mona, every Palestinian is Hamas. Mona believes that the millions of Palestinian refugees who have been trapped in a tiny strip of desert for years are to blame for not picking themselves up by their sandals and shaking off the radical Islamic terror group dominating every aspect of their lives. For shame, Palestinians!
If she were being honest, she'd have said the quiet part out loud: She thinks the Palestinians dying under the Israeli assault deserve what they get because she doesn't just think Hamas is evil, she thinks anyone who lives in Gaza or the West Bank is. She hates Palestinians and wants your readers to know that it's okay for them to hate Palestinians, too.
Are you okay with that, Charlie? Because if you are, maybe The Bulwark isn't where my media dollars should go.
Ukraine held overwhelming support among Americans when they were attacked by Russia. So, it seems, does Israel. Biden has shown he is a strong supporter of Israel. Trump's relationship with Bibi seems to have fallen off. I wonder how long it will take for Trump to turn his party against Israel, as he did Ukraine, and make it another partisan litmus test? Mona claims we have the memory of goldfish, she should add that our moral character is as fishy as well.
PHEW 😅 Onward Ho!
What is Israel doing bombing a hospital?
You might want to look at Demian Penny's article about this,
https://damianpenny.substack.com/p/a-lot-of-people-are-lying-about-a
"HEADLINE: A lot of people are lying about a devastating, deadly strike on a Gaza hospital
We just don't know for sure which side did it and is lying about it."
It's too bad that most of the regularly watched or listened to media will not have a good word to say about Biden. It's depressing. That they could still have any loyalty to Trump whose pettiness in holding in to secret documents may have given Hamas an opportunity to attack Israel. Maybe that's why he said the attackers were smart. How can any decent person support him?
The people supporting him aren’t decent.
I hope everyone is following this: https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/10/17/us/house-speaker-jim-jordan-vote
As I thought, Democrats are SALIVATING over Jordan being Speaker and already have attack lines up in every Biden leaning district where an R voted for Jordan. Jordan is a gift to Democrats and he is insisting that Democrats accept the gift. Hard.
"Normie Republican" = Common, buisness-owning Republican (COBOR). There weren't enough of these Chamber of Commerce, country-club folks to sustain political power, so they brought in the racist and religious radicals who shared their opposition to Great Society Democrats. That provided the opening for the media personalities to control the agenda, as cultural crusades are easy to manipulate. Now the COBORs have no power. They do not control the agenda and are outnumbered by the racists and zealots. But they can't leave the Party (of the Old South) because the Democrats' agenda (as they believe it) is a clear and present danger to their wealth and lifestyle. So, as my radical-liberal Swiss instructor of American government in college noted, it's the elites who control the agenda - but not so much the economically elite, anymore.
"God Help Us."
General John Kelly
20 holdouts who could not allow Jim Jordan to be the voice of the party -- at least on the first ballot. That's two more than those who run in Biden-won districts. Jordan has a lot of enemies, for good reason. 20 out of 220 ain't much, but it might be enough to keep the worst destroyer, the pervert protector, the insurrectionist, from being two heartbeats away from being president.
Send Tom Nichol's comment from the 13 October Bulwark podcast to your Representative. . .I sent Tom's comment to mine.
Don't write off the "Normies" yet. . .Jordan defeated on the first ballot, led by my Rep (only because he was first alphabetically) https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/house-speaker-vote-jim-jordan/card/don-bacon-votes-for-mccarthy-aSiSv3J1ifwCGeWYj5Sc. This is not a victory, Jordan vows to keep holding ballots until he wins. . .but he has to win over 20 or so Republicans, and a lot of his votes were first ballot only commits, so now things will get interesting.
I’ve written off the normies in 2016
This is the 2023 normie GOP today. I fear for my grandkids.
RE: header : "The Deep Roots of the Left’s Deafening Silence on Hamas."
STOP WITH THIS BULLSHIT!!!!
I am sick and tired of the easy push to claim that "Lefties" are not speaking out against Hamas. (I AM NOT EVEN A LEFTY - Left of center, yes, but not a "card carrying member of the Left" that red-blooded, "true" Americans on the right despise and use as a political piñata.)
I expect better from The Bulwark" than to simply push this bullshit story, when scores of "left-leaning" pols, pundits, and concerned people are screaming from the rafters about the brutality of Hamas.
Hey, Charlie, you're on the right. how would you like to be grouped in with MAGA lunatics, who are also considered on the right.
SHAME ON YOU!!!
Did you bother to read it before commenting? Yascha Mounk is generally worth reading.
Yes, I did...but carrying that headline is one of the on-going slams on the "Left" that has been constant stream since this situation arose.
Three members of Congress pussyfooted around on condemning Hamas...what about the other members of the Democratic "left who have leaped to condemn Hamas.
My point is that leading with that header is as aggreges as pidgin-holing all conservative "Righties" as being in league with its lunatic fringe.
I invite you to "nuance party" and realize that headlines have impact.
The gutless caucus of "Moderate" "normie" Republicans are falling like bowling pins. Since none of these morons has probably studied history, I present to them exhibit A in political courage - Lyndon Johnson putting all of his political capital behind passing the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts. When advised that he lost the South for the Dems for many generations, he replied What's the Presidency for? A corollary questions to these Cucks for Crazy is what is your office for? Apparently it's simply to hold onto rather than use it for even a modest amount of good. Someone should tell these "normie" losers that you don't get brownie points for bitching in private while caving in public