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Eric Terzuolo's avatar

I am a historian by training, and cautious about making stark analogies between current and past political figures. Trump is not Mussolini. But there are things about Mussolini's rise and conduct that can help us understand Trump's political success and future prospects. Mussolini's political rise (and Hitler's, for that matter) both derived in part from the fact that traditional conservative political and economic elites decided to support them to ensure defense of elite economic and security interests. That's been quite visible in the US and suggests there will be no significant Republican shift away from Trump in 2024, when he undoubtedly will be the Republican nominee. Of course, conservative elites routinely delude themselves about their ability to control the populist firebrands, but will pocket economic benefits and keep their mouths shut. While many of us tend to focus, rightly, on the heinous dimensions of Fascism and Nazism, that should not lead us to assume that these regimes ruled by pure repression and lacked popular consensus. The very uncomfortable reality is that Fascism and Nazism benefited at length from genuine popular consensus. The fact that many of us have a hard time understanding Trump's very significant popular support should not lead us to deny the scope and solidity of that support.

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I would argue that uber-individualism and unrestricted capitalism is a significant cause of how we got to fascism via Trump. The worship of a rich man who struts about and does what he wants regardless of what the law says while evoking the signal virtues of uber-nationalism is a straight ticket to fascist cult leader. It's the unchecked accrual of wealth by individuals and the focus of conservative politics on individualism as a core cultural value that leads to rich men who are individualistic and like to shit on government as a matter of personal virtue (Musk, Trump, Kochs, Mercers, etc.). That's how we got Trump. That's the straight line from Reaganomics to MAGA. The rise of a billionaire class through tax cuts for the rich coupled with a culture of individualism over collectivism and a deep dislike for government welfare programs came from Reaganism and brought us Trump.

I know Charlie and some others at The Bulwark staff will refuse to see that direct line from Reaganomics to MAGA fascism, but it really is a clear evolution along cultural and political lines that started with Reaganomics, uber-individualism, and antigovernmental sentiments that eventually brought us to Trump and MAGA fascism. The stops along the way were Gingrich and Limbaugh's GOP of the 90's, the post-9/11 xenophobia, the post-Obama Tea Party, the mid-Ferguson/Obergefell/BundyRanch proto-MAGA, and finally Trumpista fascism that culminated in both an unconstitutional attempt to seize power via vote rejections and a violent insurrection at the capital with the same end-goal. I don't know how else to spell this out as clearly and succinctly as this 80's-20's timeline. Government was the problem, decadently rich men of action who want to kill government by any means necessary was the answer.

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