So just what are Floridians getting out of their GOP overlords that actually helps their major problems? Doesn't sound like they got anything this year, except much ado about nothing.
The problem Ron DeSantis will always have is that he's Ron DeSantis. To know him is to despise him. He barely won statewide against a candidate who was later found drug addled in a hotel room with a passed out naked man and yes, he won re-election by 20 points against one of the greatest retread has-beens in Florida history, and point of fact in this campaign, in the early states, his polling numbers got consistently worse as time went on. But let's cut to the chase--I fervently hope Governor Ron DeSantis is the GOP standard bearer in 2028.
The cringiest part is the whining about the indictments.
That was Ron's big moment to step up to the line, and nobody else involved was anywhere nearly as well positioned.
Start with the Mar a Lago search by expressing concerns and reserving comment. And then as the story unfolds, pick the spot and swing.
DeSantis had MAGA curious and a little interested then, enough to be the non-Trump guy. And he was positioned to punch Trump in the biggest weak spot he has in the modern macho boi culture of the GOP.
Come out and say that as a former service member if the facts of the case are what they appear to be, he can't abide this. Hit on being a former JAG and cite the UCMJ chapter and verse and how badly jammed up a service member would be for half the offense.
Let the surrogates hammer on Trump's bone spur draft dodging while DeSantis plays the high road with some dips into "many people are saying" and etc.
Not only would he have stormed right back into the headlines, he still had DeSantis-friendly coverage from Fox and other odiferous organs.
Instead he revealed himself a base cur, a coward and a traitor to his oaths.
Would he have won? Dunno, but "God made a fighter" Ron. Never back down woo.
Let him slump into ignominy. He's a coward and an opportunist and he killed a fair number of people during the pandemic.
I honestly loath him more than Trump. Trump I see as a malformed, incomplete human, a basic beast that has no idea what he's missing in human connection but compensates for it with bullying narcissism.
DeSantis is smart enough to know what he's doing and what he's selling out and actively chose to do so.
The most important thing that happened in politics recently is that the Haley conservatives found their voice and backbone. This element is the game changer. How much of a game changer remains to be seen, but DeSantis acting like a typical politician is not as significant.
The utter passivity of the conservatives in the face of MAGA shows that they are/were utterly bewildered by what was happening to their party, and as natural followers, unable to come up with a response on their own. When a leader stepped forward -- Haley -- they rallied around her and acted like they just discovered agency.
That changed things since now this bloc could choose to do something which in turn would affect other elements.
DeSantis planning another run for president is rather meaningless at this point. Until the results of the election are in and we see the response to those results, we don't know what's possible in '28 for the R's. But Ron's lack of issue and messaging savvy doesn't lead me to believe he'll be significantly noteworthy in '28 either.
LOL the more DeSantis goes out in public the more chance there is of him doing something weird. Does everyone forget all the total-doofus things he did on camera? He's not Trump, he doesn't have a cult that makes excuses for all his wackiness. Their campaign did the best thing they could do keeping him off cameras as much as they could.
RonnyD is a self-centered, cruel, angry man who has been a terrible governor. I live in Florida have watched him neglect the environment, disable schools and students and encouraged discrimination across Florida.
DeSantis, and his wife, are so politically ambitious and driven.
Give up, guy! You will never make it to the WH! People must cast their votes first, and secondly, you are not likable. Hear me? The “white boots” man will never make it to Washington!
Ron DeSantis took his one shot, missed and had the bullet ricochet right back into him. He’s done forever in the Republican national sphere. Sure he probably could defeat Rick Scott and become senator if he wants but he will never ever even make it to March in a future primary. Think Rick Santorum, Mike Huckabee & Rick Perry in 2016. All three had high exposure presidential campaigns in 2008 (Huckabee) or 2012 (Perry, Santorum) and they all didn’t even get past Iowa getting no vote in 2016.
The only caveat is if by 2028 they do a Ron DeSantis/Gavin Newsom “face/off” Nicholas Cage/John Travolta style then DeSantis could have a chance. But he would still need a brain switch too…
I wonder if DeSantis understands…if tump wins in Nov, there possibility won’t be a 2028. Tump will be for life. Then Don Jr can follow in Dad’s footprints…
FloriDumb's Chubby Failed Fascist is 45; that is entirely too old to change/revamp/resuscitate his basic angry, bullying, shrill, and self-absorbed personality. He was this way in college, both undergrad and law school, in the Navy--everywhere he encountered groups of people. Therefore, anyone who actually thinks this supremely untalented little twerp will magically transform himself into a candidate folks across the nation will warm up to is guilty of magical thinking. Besides, he has screwed this pathetic state to the wall, so I cannot imagine why anyone would welcome that experience on the national level.
"THE CONVENTIONAL WISDOM is that, in politics, candidates learn more from their losses than their wins. By that standard, DeSantis just earned a Ph.D. in running for president. During his campaign he was viewed as stiff and unrelatable, so he now posts slice-of-life pictures and social media videos that give glimpses of his everyday life and less-scripted thoughts. While he was campaigning, he was seen to be especially self-centered and ungracious. So now he’s making shows of gratitude to supporters and donors."
At this point in time, Gov DeSantis has not presented his PhD thesis; all of his actions have been the equivalent of classroom quizzes, the "final exam" will be his defending his academics. I fully expect that his thesis will be soundly rejected. A leopard can't change its spots, and DeSantis will remain a stiff, unpolished person, uncomfortable when facing his own constituents, and will never be cozy with the MSM. His shows of gratitude will be as authentic as those shown by the Mango Malignancy.
DeSantis might think that 2028 will be his year, but I doubt it. Should the Fulvous Flatulence get reelected [turns head and spits three times between index and middle fingers], then there will be no free and fair election for POTUS in '28 -- TFG will not voluntarily leave office and his inauguration will actually be a coronation. Should the Sandstone Snowflake not win this year, then I expect to see him try again (age and an obviously growing senility be damned), and DeSantis will have to confront the MAGA cultists one more time.
IMO, DeSantis is incapable of winning the support of enough voters to become POTUS in the '28 general election. Dems obviously won't aid him; centrists will remember his attempt to run to the right of the MAGA oberste Fuhrer, any moves to the left will be viewed as political theater and will not be taken seriously; and the New GOP (which will still likely be a wholly owned subsidiary of Trump Inc) won't get behind him because of his challenge for the nomination this election cycle.
I don't think Republicans have as short a memory as DeSantis hopes they do.
Yes, he ignored the MSM, but he has a PERSONALITY problem that isn't going to go away.
So just what are Floridians getting out of their GOP overlords that actually helps their major problems? Doesn't sound like they got anything this year, except much ado about nothing.
The problem Ron DeSantis will always have is that he's Ron DeSantis. To know him is to despise him. He barely won statewide against a candidate who was later found drug addled in a hotel room with a passed out naked man and yes, he won re-election by 20 points against one of the greatest retread has-beens in Florida history, and point of fact in this campaign, in the early states, his polling numbers got consistently worse as time went on. But let's cut to the chase--I fervently hope Governor Ron DeSantis is the GOP standard bearer in 2028.
He ruined the best college in Florida for clout.
No one likes him. He’s not likable
The cringiest part is the whining about the indictments.
That was Ron's big moment to step up to the line, and nobody else involved was anywhere nearly as well positioned.
Start with the Mar a Lago search by expressing concerns and reserving comment. And then as the story unfolds, pick the spot and swing.
DeSantis had MAGA curious and a little interested then, enough to be the non-Trump guy. And he was positioned to punch Trump in the biggest weak spot he has in the modern macho boi culture of the GOP.
Come out and say that as a former service member if the facts of the case are what they appear to be, he can't abide this. Hit on being a former JAG and cite the UCMJ chapter and verse and how badly jammed up a service member would be for half the offense.
Let the surrogates hammer on Trump's bone spur draft dodging while DeSantis plays the high road with some dips into "many people are saying" and etc.
Not only would he have stormed right back into the headlines, he still had DeSantis-friendly coverage from Fox and other odiferous organs.
Instead he revealed himself a base cur, a coward and a traitor to his oaths.
Would he have won? Dunno, but "God made a fighter" Ron. Never back down woo.
Let him slump into ignominy. He's a coward and an opportunist and he killed a fair number of people during the pandemic.
I honestly loath him more than Trump. Trump I see as a malformed, incomplete human, a basic beast that has no idea what he's missing in human connection but compensates for it with bullying narcissism.
DeSantis is smart enough to know what he's doing and what he's selling out and actively chose to do so.
The most important thing that happened in politics recently is that the Haley conservatives found their voice and backbone. This element is the game changer. How much of a game changer remains to be seen, but DeSantis acting like a typical politician is not as significant.
The utter passivity of the conservatives in the face of MAGA shows that they are/were utterly bewildered by what was happening to their party, and as natural followers, unable to come up with a response on their own. When a leader stepped forward -- Haley -- they rallied around her and acted like they just discovered agency.
That changed things since now this bloc could choose to do something which in turn would affect other elements.
DeSantis planning another run for president is rather meaningless at this point. Until the results of the election are in and we see the response to those results, we don't know what's possible in '28 for the R's. But Ron's lack of issue and messaging savvy doesn't lead me to believe he'll be significantly noteworthy in '28 either.
DeSantis in 28? I don't think so. And thankfully he's term
limited. Quietly fade away.
Ron DeSantis
The Fat Lady has been singing for a year.
You're irrelevant now.
LOL the more DeSantis goes out in public the more chance there is of him doing something weird. Does everyone forget all the total-doofus things he did on camera? He's not Trump, he doesn't have a cult that makes excuses for all his wackiness. Their campaign did the best thing they could do keeping him off cameras as much as they could.
RonnyD is a self-centered, cruel, angry man who has been a terrible governor. I live in Florida have watched him neglect the environment, disable schools and students and encouraged discrimination across Florida.
DeSantis, and his wife, are so politically ambitious and driven.
Give up, guy! You will never make it to the WH! People must cast their votes first, and secondly, you are not likable. Hear me? The “white boots” man will never make it to Washington!
Ron DeSantis took his one shot, missed and had the bullet ricochet right back into him. He’s done forever in the Republican national sphere. Sure he probably could defeat Rick Scott and become senator if he wants but he will never ever even make it to March in a future primary. Think Rick Santorum, Mike Huckabee & Rick Perry in 2016. All three had high exposure presidential campaigns in 2008 (Huckabee) or 2012 (Perry, Santorum) and they all didn’t even get past Iowa getting no vote in 2016.
The only caveat is if by 2028 they do a Ron DeSantis/Gavin Newsom “face/off” Nicholas Cage/John Travolta style then DeSantis could have a chance. But he would still need a brain switch too…
I wonder if DeSantis understands…if tump wins in Nov, there possibility won’t be a 2028. Tump will be for life. Then Don Jr can follow in Dad’s footprints…
FloriDumb's Chubby Failed Fascist is 45; that is entirely too old to change/revamp/resuscitate his basic angry, bullying, shrill, and self-absorbed personality. He was this way in college, both undergrad and law school, in the Navy--everywhere he encountered groups of people. Therefore, anyone who actually thinks this supremely untalented little twerp will magically transform himself into a candidate folks across the nation will warm up to is guilty of magical thinking. Besides, he has screwed this pathetic state to the wall, so I cannot imagine why anyone would welcome that experience on the national level.
"THE CONVENTIONAL WISDOM is that, in politics, candidates learn more from their losses than their wins. By that standard, DeSantis just earned a Ph.D. in running for president. During his campaign he was viewed as stiff and unrelatable, so he now posts slice-of-life pictures and social media videos that give glimpses of his everyday life and less-scripted thoughts. While he was campaigning, he was seen to be especially self-centered and ungracious. So now he’s making shows of gratitude to supporters and donors."
At this point in time, Gov DeSantis has not presented his PhD thesis; all of his actions have been the equivalent of classroom quizzes, the "final exam" will be his defending his academics. I fully expect that his thesis will be soundly rejected. A leopard can't change its spots, and DeSantis will remain a stiff, unpolished person, uncomfortable when facing his own constituents, and will never be cozy with the MSM. His shows of gratitude will be as authentic as those shown by the Mango Malignancy.
DeSantis might think that 2028 will be his year, but I doubt it. Should the Fulvous Flatulence get reelected [turns head and spits three times between index and middle fingers], then there will be no free and fair election for POTUS in '28 -- TFG will not voluntarily leave office and his inauguration will actually be a coronation. Should the Sandstone Snowflake not win this year, then I expect to see him try again (age and an obviously growing senility be damned), and DeSantis will have to confront the MAGA cultists one more time.
IMO, DeSantis is incapable of winning the support of enough voters to become POTUS in the '28 general election. Dems obviously won't aid him; centrists will remember his attempt to run to the right of the MAGA oberste Fuhrer, any moves to the left will be viewed as political theater and will not be taken seriously; and the New GOP (which will still likely be a wholly owned subsidiary of Trump Inc) won't get behind him because of his challenge for the nomination this election cycle.
DeSantis' political future is bleak, if not dead.
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