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Good column, but JVL doesn’t understand what a real record producer does creatively before, during and after a recording session to create a hit record. Real record producers are just as subject to exploitation by record companies as are the artists. “Record producers” who are company executives that get a cut for sitting in during the session are a different story, of course.

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Wrong subject but couldn't find a relevant recent article.

How is Musk not monetizing the OSI Twitter investigators. They have shown the actual missile attack that leads to the dramatic hospital explosions. This has been open knowledge for over 8 hours now and there is still no US press coverage.

https://twitter.com/GeoConfirmed/status/1714390254935851272?t=_S_XOuIJcE9zRGm96SDsyA&s=19

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Taylor Swift is what record industry executives would dream up if they were good at their jobs. A talented song writer that just happens to be charming and drop-dead gorgeous.

The only thing more entertaining than listening to her is listening to right-wing nut jobs denigrate her.

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Taylor figured out early that her power was her fan base. She freely loved and interacted with them, and showed them how much she values them. She shows her love and appreciation to her employees, road crews, and everyone who works for her success. She made herself a force, all while doing what she loves and enjoying herself. And she’s kind, and has a strong sense of right and wrong, mostly based on how people treat other people. I like some of her music, and I love her. Leaders of countries and business could learn a lot from her

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Nice article. Thank you.

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JVL. You are a treasure.

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OMG JVL Thank you! I am an old and prefer my music on the punk side, but I told Alexa to play Taylor and if I were 15 I'd totally be a Swiftie! She is utterly charming . Fantastic stuff. Sure it's pop, but pop can be amazing. Thank you for turning me on to her!

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Oct 17, 2023·edited Oct 17, 2023

I'm an old too! I enjoy TSwift but my tastes run more along the punk side too. As I've gotten older my tastes have broaden quite a bit. Bluegrass, country, hip hop, it's all good.

But Taylor's business acumen is truly wonderful.

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I agree that Taylor is pretty remarkable for what she has done to the industry and for those she works with. Unfortunately she is the exception, not the rule. The world always makes exceptions for the exceptional.

BTW if you want a good song on the music industry try 10 years shoot it out...pretty brutal

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I applaud Taylor Swift's success and appreciate her talent, even if female pop singers isn't my thing. It may be noted she's hardly the first artist to give the music industry the one finger salute. The most successful ? Probably...but hardly the first.

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Big surprise, modern day carpetbagging vultures preying on economically vulnerable minorities.

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Oct 17, 2023·edited Oct 17, 2023

Regarding Taylor Swift:

As an economic force and as a cultural phenomenon, I appreciate her. Clearly she's one of the most driven, determined people American celebrity has, and combines it with street smarts. Her political emergence especially, at a time when she didn't have to say a word, was an inspiring sight to behold. And she's created a community that rivals Harry Potter in size and intensity. At least in America.

As an artist, meh. I think her music is frankly beside the point.

I do get "feels" and "vibes" (as the kids say) from a couple of her simpler songs, and sort of get the grander appeal of the lyrics, especially across time. (There's a reason Nickelback (for example) writes songs for their fans, not for themselves.)

But if you're going to straight-up compare music and artistry. . . I'm going to pick B-level, near-underground British Invasion band The Tremeloes (almost-famous for that one song on the "Rushmore" soundtrack) over Tay-Tay Swift.

But again. Like I said. The music ain't the point. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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>As an artist, meh. I think her music is frankly beside the point.

Old dude mehs music for young women.

Also yells at clouds.

Dude, she is not making it for you. Go back to listening to the Doors on vinyl.

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Nah, I'd rather get into arguments about it on the Internet.

After all, I did comment specifically to annoy you, personally. :D

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Oct 17, 2023·edited Oct 17, 2023

The Eras Tour *might* be Peak Tay-Tay. I don't really know where she can go professionally from here...other than record the next Bond theme--it can't be a worse song than "Another Way To Die" (horrible song), Madge doing "Die Another day" or "The Man With The Golden Gun". Her early stuff I couldn't stand, but her stuff now is not bad...but, like I said, I don't know where else she can go as on artist. Metal? EDM? I don't see it.

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She is about to release the most successful tour movie in history.

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Probably film…she’s directed many of her last music videos as well as the short film to accompany her 10 minute version of “All Too Well”. She discusses different approaches to writing and directing with Michael MCDonagh (In Bruges, Three Billboards, The Banshees of Inisherin, etc)

https://youtu.be/x8zfsf4azLo?si=t17yIKknE-8w09I1

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From a certain perspective, Taylor Swift is the spiritual successor to Madge from a business sense. Brit-Brit & Xtina captured Madge's hot mess quality (and then Ms Spears gave that quality acid and rammed it through a funhouse mirror--if her current Instagram videos are an indicator), but on the business side, Taylor Swift grabbed the mantle.

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Thanks JVL for breaking down your admiration for Swift’s business acumen and confidence. I see why you love her. I have high admiration for women who know their worth and fight those who devalue others. Clearly she has been fighting this fight for her own benefit since she was a kid. Her victory is damned sweet. As a powerful woman she now has the chance to really impact the business for others. Does she start her own label that fairly treats new artists? Does she produce and mentor others to show them what she has learned? I hope so. I find that our idols always fail us. They’re human. It’s worth watching what she does now with her power.

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Just so you know, while all you say about Taylor Swift is admirable, I still don't have a clue what she sounds like - and have no interest in learning... it is old age, my music listening goes back before the Beatles so taking in something new is no longer my priority. I also never caught up to Rap.

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I almost didn't read this story in last Sunday NY Times's Magazine (the culture issue) about Taylor Swift.

I'm so glad I did. It's hard to describe - a non-profile from a profile writer for the Times, based on her personal experience attending one of the Eras Tour concerts with her son. Just outstanding observations and reflections. Worth taking the time to read: https://bit.ly/3FkaHYs

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