So, to Sarah's last point, they are lying when they know we (liberals, Bulwark listeners, etc) can see what actually happened, true. But I think the Trump administration are also lying because they are pretty sure a whole lot of people will see only the version of what happened that the Trump admin and their mouth-of-Sauron type influencers and tv commentators show them.
Bogvino looks like Rudolph Hess ! We cannot take anything they say seriously .
And those "agents' not ready for primetime.The audio shows that as the guy was on the ground someone yells GUN and the shots began.Six guys pummeling a pepper sprayed "perpetrator " and they can't handle that to the point that they fire off a dozen rounds.
Arrange for Dems, independents and fed-up reps to barrage the SC contingent to the Congress. They have to log the calls, so even if they will remain supporters of DJT the dissenting South Carolinians will be noted.
Andrew Weissmann always has such a clear explanation for why things are wrong and how they should work and why what we're seeing now is so dangerous. I really appreciate his take and especially him punting back to Sarah for the political perspective. In my mind the bad is how horrible this is. Two dead American citizens and the government saying nothing to see here, move along. But the Democratic senators have all finally said that they won't vote for the DHS funding bill without substantial revision to ICE funding. This is huge and we shouldn't discount it. We need to keep calling and keep marching no matter what they do.
Calling it now. If Minnesota subpoenas the phone company for the records the phone company will end up refusing because they are kowtowing to Trump. This will spend years going up to the supreme court and god knows what happens there.
Taking it a step further about what are they doing when no one is filming? These were border patrol. I can’t imagine what they’re doing to migrants near the border.
These days ‘public servants’ work for Trump or one of his minions fires them. Do NOT confuse the status quo ante with the situation on the ground today. IOW, SHOULD has left the country.
The Trump administration isn't just lying to us. They're gaslighting us. They're telling us that we're delusional if we trust our own eyes and ears. If you don't buy into their lies, they leave you so enraged, they can accuse you of having TDS. If you begin to doubt your own senses, then the gaslighting is working and you really are developing a psychological disorder. And, if you come to believe everything Trump and his henchmen say, you're suffering from shared delusional disorder. You're a cultist.
We're watching nothing less than an entire nation being driven mad.
A somewhat irrelevant comment prompted by the latest government murder:
One of the things that got ignored when Biden was elected was the persistence of the lies about the election. I felt there should have been a very public trial where the election deniers got to provide their evidence in an open televised court with a real judge and someone like Mark Elias would have presented data showing that elections were free and fair.
Perhaps the lies would still persist but I think such a public presentation would have really helped. Just saying that election denier claims had been defeated in court after court does not have the same effect as seeing that proof presented for oneself. I know this is not exactly relevant to this man's tragic loss, but I think adjudication takes place in silos that are easily dismissed by those that disagree. And certainly, every trial should not be public - but ones that have huge import to our whole country should be public. How to stop them from being a circus is another issue.
This is the terror to build up to the Midterms. F!$#@! Miller, Noem, Vacation Vance, and Dementia Don.
Democrats do something!
We have no FBI, no one to investigate this!
Is there anyone I Congress who isn't a !##$#@!.
He hand a camera. DAMN ICE.
So, to Sarah's last point, they are lying when they know we (liberals, Bulwark listeners, etc) can see what actually happened, true. But I think the Trump administration are also lying because they are pretty sure a whole lot of people will see only the version of what happened that the Trump admin and their mouth-of-Sauron type influencers and tv commentators show them.
Bogvino looks like Rudolph Hess ! We cannot take anything they say seriously .
And those "agents' not ready for primetime.The audio shows that as the guy was on the ground someone yells GUN and the shots began.Six guys pummeling a pepper sprayed "perpetrator " and they can't handle that to the point that they fire off a dozen rounds.
A real crime .
Arrange for Dems, independents and fed-up reps to barrage the SC contingent to the Congress. They have to log the calls, so even if they will remain supporters of DJT the dissenting South Carolinians will be noted.
Andrew Weissmann always has such a clear explanation for why things are wrong and how they should work and why what we're seeing now is so dangerous. I really appreciate his take and especially him punting back to Sarah for the political perspective. In my mind the bad is how horrible this is. Two dead American citizens and the government saying nothing to see here, move along. But the Democratic senators have all finally said that they won't vote for the DHS funding bill without substantial revision to ICE funding. This is huge and we shouldn't discount it. We need to keep calling and keep marching no matter what they do.
re "they're lying to us..." Ask Tim what Ryan Grim said about "fuckery." That's what's going on.
What about his family filing a federal tort claim?
Calling it now. If Minnesota subpoenas the phone company for the records the phone company will end up refusing because they are kowtowing to Trump. This will spend years going up to the supreme court and god knows what happens there.
Taking it a step further about what are they doing when no one is filming? These were border patrol. I can’t imagine what they’re doing to migrants near the border.
whatever it is, some of it is done on horseback.
These days ‘public servants’ work for Trump or one of his minions fires them. Do NOT confuse the status quo ante with the situation on the ground today. IOW, SHOULD has left the country.
The Trump administration isn't just lying to us. They're gaslighting us. They're telling us that we're delusional if we trust our own eyes and ears. If you don't buy into their lies, they leave you so enraged, they can accuse you of having TDS. If you begin to doubt your own senses, then the gaslighting is working and you really are developing a psychological disorder. And, if you come to believe everything Trump and his henchmen say, you're suffering from shared delusional disorder. You're a cultist.
We're watching nothing less than an entire nation being driven mad.
What can you do- Contact the Congress. Your senators and House representative. Ask friends and family in red states contact their senators and reps.
In the before times good advice.
If one lives in an R+20 district with 2 craven GQP senators, eg, 90% of South Carolinians, what then?
A somewhat irrelevant comment prompted by the latest government murder:
One of the things that got ignored when Biden was elected was the persistence of the lies about the election. I felt there should have been a very public trial where the election deniers got to provide their evidence in an open televised court with a real judge and someone like Mark Elias would have presented data showing that elections were free and fair.
Perhaps the lies would still persist but I think such a public presentation would have really helped. Just saying that election denier claims had been defeated in court after court does not have the same effect as seeing that proof presented for oneself. I know this is not exactly relevant to this man's tragic loss, but I think adjudication takes place in silos that are easily dismissed by those that disagree. And certainly, every trial should not be public - but ones that have huge import to our whole country should be public. How to stop them from being a circus is another issue.
Silly non-MAGA Americans thinking Newscorp settling for 750 million was enough.