This is great reporting and the best I have seen. I rejected this shot for my daughter when she was born. Why? Because they told me hep b was transmitted via blood and dirty needles….zero info about possibility of adults in her life having it and not knowing because she was asymptomatic. It’s very hard in the hospital to make these decisions after just having a c-section and now realizing you are taking home a kid! At any rate, I am not anti-vax. I followed the sears method for vaccines which just meant more trips to the dr to get fewer shots at a time and spaced out more. She had the hep b series when she was in school because NC schools require it. On both sides of this issue the one thing being underreported about it all- are the facts. Transmission, how and why we should get it- I mean my dr didn’t discuss w me prior to delivery and the hospital has zero literature about it to educate people.
This all fits in perfectly with Trump's efforts to create chaos. Most physicians will not follow these totally ridiculous recommendations and will counsel their patients to follow the previously established guidelines but the desired effect of chaos has been created. Trump is an evil, angry old man and cruelty is what makes him happy. So very sad.
"Over the course of the two-day meeting, vaccine skeptics..."
Once again I must object to a wrong, but unfortunately too common, definition of "skeptic." The correct definition is one who requires evidence before accepting a claim. Thus the PRO-vaccine people are the true skeptics; they needed the evidence, and they have it. The deniers and liars are the OPPOSITE of skeptics. They require no evidence for their claim, but no evidence is ever sufficient for them to reject it.
These quacks and their boss are testing their junk “science” on children, and children will suffer needlessly as a result.
If a sane administration replaces this one, a major house-cleaning must take place quickly at the CDC. I hope that future candidates are taking notes as well as names.
I keep thinking of the millions of voters last year who were not in the MAGA cult, but didn't vote. In many cases because they were obsessed over the price of eggs and assumed (correctly in my opinion) that neither candidate would fix it. A subset of them will die, or worse, have children who die, because they didn't vote.
Jonathan, That was an astonishing piece of reporting. You should be lauded for your work, your dedication and your passion. My preoccupation in this disaster is with one man, Senator Bill Cassidy. He, alone, had the power to stop this but chose to put a heroine addict in charge of the nation's health. When the time comes, he should be charged with crimes against humanity and banished into oblivion.
I wonder how effective anything RFK is doing will actually have an impact on the actual practice of medicine. How many physicians depend on the DHHS for guidance on anything anymore? It could, of course, impact future roll outs of new vaccines but those that already have an established record of success (unless they are banned) will continue to be used by practicing health care professionals.
I believe that medical associations and the science produced around the world will prevail over the idiocratic disorientation of the DHHS because most medical professionals are not stupid and want what is best for their consumers. In the end market demands will decide. Insurance companies also understand that the upfront costs of vaccinations is far outweighed by the costs of hospitalization and, in some cases, end of life care, and the impact on their bottom line.
I watched a friend die of cirrhosis contracted at birth from her mother. Her mother was a good and faithful wife to a faithless husband who passed the virus to his wife. Death from liver disease often occurs only after decades of suffering. Cirrhosis is not a painless death. My friend did not have a Hep B vaccine shortly after birth because she was born well before 1980 when no vaccinations were yet available. Any parent who does not insist that her newborn receive the vaccine is guilty of child neglect.
The goal is the destruction of trust. When no one trusts the government, when you can't trust your co-workers, when family members cannot trust one another, the entire system will fail and the totalitarians with the most raw power will take control. The law of the jungle will prevail and be due to a lack of trust. The absence of trust is the rocky shore upon which the foundations and the very bones of our society will be scattered.
Science and Medicine are the first to go when we re convene the Salem witch trials and the persecution of Galileo. G-D has told us that there can be no tampering with the human body.
Witches and Warlocks are infecting our children and drinking their blood.
You can be sure that our “Authorities” and their children and grandchildren will all receive their vaccines on schedule. “You don’t realize how good you have it here” according to our treasury secretary. The CDC, FEMA, Healthcare, NOAA, and the EPA, all a bunch of loser agencies.
Again, thank you for helping me understand this absurdity. As with everything in this Queens real estate mob boss’s administration, it’s not about what it’s about, or in this case, like everything else in this administration, its about creating doubt and laying the foundation for someone being able to make money in future lawsuits on other people’s ignorance. Con and grift. All corruption, all the time.
This is great reporting and the best I have seen. I rejected this shot for my daughter when she was born. Why? Because they told me hep b was transmitted via blood and dirty needles….zero info about possibility of adults in her life having it and not knowing because she was asymptomatic. It’s very hard in the hospital to make these decisions after just having a c-section and now realizing you are taking home a kid! At any rate, I am not anti-vax. I followed the sears method for vaccines which just meant more trips to the dr to get fewer shots at a time and spaced out more. She had the hep b series when she was in school because NC schools require it. On both sides of this issue the one thing being underreported about it all- are the facts. Transmission, how and why we should get it- I mean my dr didn’t discuss w me prior to delivery and the hospital has zero literature about it to educate people.
Great reporting here! Thanks!
He's a disgusting specimen
This all fits in perfectly with Trump's efforts to create chaos. Most physicians will not follow these totally ridiculous recommendations and will counsel their patients to follow the previously established guidelines but the desired effect of chaos has been created. Trump is an evil, angry old man and cruelty is what makes him happy. So very sad.
"Over the course of the two-day meeting, vaccine skeptics..."
Once again I must object to a wrong, but unfortunately too common, definition of "skeptic." The correct definition is one who requires evidence before accepting a claim. Thus the PRO-vaccine people are the true skeptics; they needed the evidence, and they have it. The deniers and liars are the OPPOSITE of skeptics. They require no evidence for their claim, but no evidence is ever sufficient for them to reject it.
These quacks and their boss are testing their junk “science” on children, and children will suffer needlessly as a result.
If a sane administration replaces this one, a major house-cleaning must take place quickly at the CDC. I hope that future candidates are taking notes as well as names.
I keep thinking of the millions of voters last year who were not in the MAGA cult, but didn't vote. In many cases because they were obsessed over the price of eggs and assumed (correctly in my opinion) that neither candidate would fix it. A subset of them will die, or worse, have children who die, because they didn't vote.
This is very dark. Also, its just the beginning. I wonder where this path will lead the next three years.
Jonathan, That was an astonishing piece of reporting. You should be lauded for your work, your dedication and your passion. My preoccupation in this disaster is with one man, Senator Bill Cassidy. He, alone, had the power to stop this but chose to put a heroine addict in charge of the nation's health. When the time comes, he should be charged with crimes against humanity and banished into oblivion.
I wonder how effective anything RFK is doing will actually have an impact on the actual practice of medicine. How many physicians depend on the DHHS for guidance on anything anymore? It could, of course, impact future roll outs of new vaccines but those that already have an established record of success (unless they are banned) will continue to be used by practicing health care professionals.
I believe that medical associations and the science produced around the world will prevail over the idiocratic disorientation of the DHHS because most medical professionals are not stupid and want what is best for their consumers. In the end market demands will decide. Insurance companies also understand that the upfront costs of vaccinations is far outweighed by the costs of hospitalization and, in some cases, end of life care, and the impact on their bottom line.
I watched a friend die of cirrhosis contracted at birth from her mother. Her mother was a good and faithful wife to a faithless husband who passed the virus to his wife. Death from liver disease often occurs only after decades of suffering. Cirrhosis is not a painless death. My friend did not have a Hep B vaccine shortly after birth because she was born well before 1980 when no vaccinations were yet available. Any parent who does not insist that her newborn receive the vaccine is guilty of child neglect.
I think the answer is whatever Bill Cassidy recommended for his grandkids. Not anything he does to remain in the senate.
Pure idiocy.
I work at NIH. The administration has caused so much damage.
The goal is the destruction of trust. When no one trusts the government, when you can't trust your co-workers, when family members cannot trust one another, the entire system will fail and the totalitarians with the most raw power will take control. The law of the jungle will prevail and be due to a lack of trust. The absence of trust is the rocky shore upon which the foundations and the very bones of our society will be scattered.
Science and Medicine are the first to go when we re convene the Salem witch trials and the persecution of Galileo. G-D has told us that there can be no tampering with the human body.
Witches and Warlocks are infecting our children and drinking their blood.
You can be sure that our “Authorities” and their children and grandchildren will all receive their vaccines on schedule. “You don’t realize how good you have it here” according to our treasury secretary. The CDC, FEMA, Healthcare, NOAA, and the EPA, all a bunch of loser agencies.
These people are malicious idiots. I really think they want to make us sicker as a population.
Again, thank you for helping me understand this absurdity. As with everything in this Queens real estate mob boss’s administration, it’s not about what it’s about, or in this case, like everything else in this administration, its about creating doubt and laying the foundation for someone being able to make money in future lawsuits on other people’s ignorance. Con and grift. All corruption, all the time.