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Re: How the ‘No Labels’ Gambit Could Wreck the 2024 Election. From my perspective Norm Ornstein and Dennis Aftergut wrote their article based on partial historical events and personal speculation as to why No Labels doesn't disclose their donors. Here is a brief video based on current data and coming "straight from the horse mouth." https://2024.nolabels.org/ Charlie, you should have one of the No labels leaders on your show, I think you would learn some things that will bring great relief to your heart and to many in your audience, Dorsey

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Anyone else hearing an echo of "Russia, if you're listening..." Trump's video seems like a direct solicitation for "campaign support" from Putin

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Anyone who sets to divide the American people and make them enemies to each other is the enemy of the American people. I cannot recall a single U.S. President before Trump who sought to divide the people instead of unite them.

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He had to divide us. A "United" States would never have elected a traitor, liar, thief like him.

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Not the point, but I'm amazed that Trump could read and pronounce all the multi-syllabic words in that statement. "Fundamentally reevaluating?" Yikes. Or maybe he didn't pronounce them correctly; I didn't listen. The whole thing seems to be way above his level of intelligence, and the part of me that is sure he's got some form of dementia is curious about whether he even knew what he was saying.

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What he thinks is irrelevant. It's what his followers think that really matters. They're the ones electing him and his enablers. They're the ones - the McCarthys, the Greenes, the Flynns, the Bannons, etc. Trump himself is on his way out literally or figuratively - what he spawned isn't.

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I tend to think our real enemy in America is the Low information voters that Trump adores so.

..and I forgot, elections.

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DeSantis is clearly dangerous but he is no match for the Orange One, who is so aligned with Putin and so desperate for revenge that everyone and I mean everyone must be on guard. I think he's the greatest threat to the US since Hitler but maybe worse, because he's homegrown and still way too popular with too many Americans.

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So someone who tried to overthrow the government so he could remain in power and who openly admires dictators wants to purge the government of anyone who disagrees with him. When has this ever turned out badly?😬 (I hope you can detect the heady aroma of sarcasm here.)

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As long as there are voters in Bison's Butt, OK who like Putin more than Pelosi, Trump will maintain his appeal among a substantial portion of Americans.

As long as anyone outside today's Right pays too much attention to Trump or other MAGA, the Right wins. Can the Bulwark ignore Trump? Or DeSantis? For just a week? Probably not if even here Trump sells subscriptions.

If the only way to stop Trump is to IGNORE him (not ALL, let prosecutors show him all the attention he deserves), are we doomed because we can't?

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If he is ignored, he and his enablers will be free to operate in secret, and we won't be ready for what comes. Personally, I'm against that.

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The next time someone says TFG is term-limited, think about this:

Despite prohibition, El Salvador President Bukele says he will seek re-election

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/despite-prohibition-el-salvador-president-bukele-says-he-will-seek-re-election-2022-09-16/

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Mar 17, 2023·edited Mar 17, 2023

"Free all political prisoners – Mumia Abu-Jamal, Julian Assange, Leonard Peltier, and many others"

Do these Leftists mean *all* political prisoners, or just those that they agree with? My opinion of Trumpettes, and other MAGA "patriots," is lower than whale dung on an ocean seabed, but, according to them, the J6 insurrectionists are the real political prisoners - and not Abu-Jamal, Assange....

So, my question is, are these Leftists openhanded on who is defined as a political prisoner [laughing uproariously] and release from both sides of the political spectrum, or are they just as bad as those who dwell in the MAGAverse by declaring that the other side deserves to be imprisoned while their patriots are being incarcerated unfairly? My best guess, two sides of the same coin - "we're right, you're wrong, get over it."

Long live the Centrists and Independents who consider the candidate and not the party affiliation.

fnord

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Those leftists are idiots and have zero power. They're not the problem.

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The MAGA would know all this and support him anyway.. I weep for the end of the republic.

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Where is John Kelly, Mattis, the entire senate, other current military? They should all be on TV denouncing Trump and educating the dumbed down US public on the necessity of NATO and dangers of Russia/Putin.

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What if Trump accurately represents what a substantial portion of US voters want?

Isolationism has a long history in US politics. Know-nothingism too. Trump may only be returning his MAGA base to an older time. He and they being as, er, casual in their pursuit of historical knowledge may not believe there'd be any adverse consequences from the US withdrawing from the world, or maybe only maintaining cordial relationships with Russia, Belarus, Hungary, Poland, PRC and North Korea.

What if that IS what a majority of Republican primary voters want?

Are other Republican voters prepared to vote for the Democratic Party nominee, even Biden+Harris, in order to prevent Trump from returning to the presidency?

As quite a few Bulwark writers have stated many times, the problem is not Trump or DeSantis, it's the Republican voters whose loathing of their non-Republican fellow citizens is so great they'd throw the country under the bus for liberal tears.

Literary tangent: anyone who's never read the Advise and Consent books should consider reading Come Nineveh, Come Tyre right about now, and ponder whether Hawley or Johnson is Van Ackerman.

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Charlie - each podcast you warn that listening may result in deep depression. Yet each podcast gets darker. (help)

BTW - Tom Nichols is Grrrrrrreat. (give that to Mr. Miller - and remind him the Mouseketeer was Anti Gay)

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vatnik: syn. for tankie. See also Rashist (Рашист).

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Might we please, please ixnay the love affair with Reagan Republicanism? It's been thirty and more years since his presidency. It's over. Over, Johnny. That GOP is dead. Reagan is dead. None of it is coming back. Ever. The GOP of never-Trumpers' hopes and dreams will not resurrect. The GOP of here and now is a fascist nightmare. And it's what we've got. Face it. Deal with it. Hold your nose and join the Democrat Party. It's all you've got.

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*the Democratic Party

(Sorry, it’s just a pet peeve of mine. I’m not sure when MAGAs started saying “the Democrat Party,” but I really hate to see the virus spread to reasonable people :P)

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They shouldn’t even have to hold their nose … on the most important world issues today, Biden and the democrats have shown they are worthy of support and votes.

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