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Got two issues for on this one, Charlie. First, Matt Lewis, while a smart guy, is not someone who has any sense in terms of what anyone wants. He's perpetually wrong, not because he's not smart, but because what he wants always guides what he sees. 'America First' isn't dead, not by a long shot. What it's going to pivot to, mark my words, is that the rest of the world perpetually draws in the US to fight their battles and their wars. They might not talk up Putin as much, but as lockdowns in China increase inflation, expect them to increasingly describe the world as an anchor around America's neck. America First isn't dead, because America First is just a name we give a general sensibility about things; it's neither a coherent political movement nor a coherent ideology.

The second one is bigger. What exactly do you want Democrats to do? I ask this, because you say that democrats need to put aside their pet projects. You know what "put aside other legislative desires to rebuild trust on the national economy and household costs" looks like? It looks like passing something like Build Back Better, something you opposed! In fact, you spend the majority of it cheerleading Sinema and Manchin, who torpedoed the entire thing.

I've said this before, but there's really only two sides now, the Trumpist GOP and the Democratic Party. Because if you want the former to fail, you have to want the latter to succeed, since the latter failing results in the former succeeding. I know this is hard for a lot of conservatives, but that's the state of play we're currently in. There's no outcome where the Democrats fail and the old GOP returns. We know this, because despite Romney and Cheney crowing about how much they hated Trump, they voted and supported all his initiatives. In other words, they were more than happy to let him succeed.

The core challenge for the Democratic party is that voters don't seem to have any clear idea about what they want or what causes what. They seem to trust the GOP on the economy, despite the past two presidents of the GOP left their terms with the country in a downward spiral. Bush gave us the Great Recession, and Trump gave us the covid recession, because he refused to take it seriously. Obama and Biden, whatever their personal quirks you dislike, ended their presidencies with great economies.

But for some reason, people think that we're in a recession when the economy is great right now. If you want a job, there are more jobs than workers. Inflation is growing, but this is because of Covid, and it's going to be the new normal. The only way to actually handle this problem is either to raise the minimum wage to like $15 an hour, something which would obviously have lots of down stream effects, or you have to ride it out until demand decreases. But there's no way to actually combat these problems without either letting the economy implode or asking for more direct action in the market by government.

Which, if you're a conservative, you're going to have to ask if you're okay with that. Which brings me back around again to asking: do you actually want democrats to succeed? Because their success is directly linked to Trumpism failing. If you don't want them to succeed, then you want the GOP to succeed, because those are the only two options. And if you want the democrats to succeed, you need to stop cheerleading people like Manchin and Sinema, two people who have done more to torpedo the democratic agenda, which would do things like stabilize the economy, than anyone else.

I'm not calling you out for being a conservative, Charlie. I'm calling you out for being incoherent. You can't be like 'Democrats have a problem! they need to succeed!' and then turn around and argue against everything they try to do, because they don't match the GOP's desires. If you truly believe, as I do, that the only way to stop Trumpism is for Democrats to succeed so that Trumpism fails, then you have to actually want them to succeed. You can't both want Trumpism to fail and for Democrats to fail, because that's not an option. That leaves you with Trumpism succeeding.

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Don Gates's avatar

This biolabs conspiracy is a textbook encapsulation of the rot in the rightwing media ecosystem today. A loony theory pops up on the fringes of the rightwing dark web, it gradually propagates itself to the daylight as more mainstream rightwing outlets latch on to it, and throughout its improbable journey no one along the line attempts to fact check, vet, or debunk it, everyone just rolls with it because it speaks to something that, deep down, they just know has to be true. It's how so much daft rubbish ends up on Tucker Carlson; there are no guardrails in rightwing media. It's all a rotten, stupid propaganda factory meant to stoke those who are predisposed to believe the worst about those with whom they disagree.

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