I'm rewatching Season 1 of True Detective along with watching Night Country. A lot of other culture writers are writing about the connections between the two seasons, such as the few obvious ones (Travis Kohle as well as the weird spiral mark thing and the inclusion of the same shell company in both seasons). "In Night Country, López is pulling some of her favorite elements from the first season and blending them into a story with its own unique characters, environments, and mysteries..." We are only on Episode 2, and there may be many, many more ties between the two seasons yet to be explained. It's a little early to declare that the two seasons are obviously independent of each other, isn't it? https://www.theringer.com/2024/1/25/24050241/true-detective-night-country-season-1-connections-rust-cohle-carcosa-spiral
I agree on True Detective. After the first episode I thought “This doesn’t feel like True Detective.” It still doesn’t after episode 2 but I’ll keep watching. I want to know what happens and Jodi Foster is wonderful. It’s more like an Icelandic noir program. I don’t think they can remake the magic of Season 1. The script plus the two actors were utter perfection.
I don’t care what anyone thinks I loved season 2 of True Detective. Yes season 1 was legendary and all time great but Season 3 was also fantastic in every way. The only really controversial season was season 2 and I still loved it.
Haven’t yet seen the beginning of season 4 (Night Country) but I’m super excited for it. Like so much else in our society it seems as though everyone has to be offended when they don’t like a show going in a different direction.
I really don't like the "open ended" series form that tries to keep going season after season. There are exceptions of course but too often a fairly interesting story tries to recapture the light in the bottle season after season only to exhaust the premise and become sillier over time. PBS "Masterpiece Theater" is rife with such clunkers.
I prefer the limited series format with 4 to 8 episodes with a definite arc that's one and done.
I, too, am drawn to "bottle dramas" and loved both "Locke" and "First Time Caller." It is a risky form and requires a will to keep watching until the writers hook is in and leads to a satisfying end. Younger audiences used to short scenes and helter skelter camera movement probably have a hard time staying with them to the end.
Alan Bennett's TV series "Talking Heads" is a master class in the form. Language is the magic sauce and has to drive everything.
Maybe Nic should just enjoy the small mindshare bump of having his EP cred on S4 for no work, and not call attention to the fact that he hasn’t shown the aptitude for television making since striking gold with S1. This feels like a fight Nic needed more than anyone, and sure enough there were people on the internet there to give it to him.
But....True Detective started to suck around the last two episodes of S1 and then the astonishingly dumb and illogical S2 should have tanked the show because it was even stupider than S4 of Fargo. True Detective S3 was boring and totally unsatisfying, with all the clever time jumping hanging on its meager branches like plastic garbage bags after a flash flood. This isn't a name brand show at all. It's more like a study of arrogance and failure akin to the Walking Dead. The new show is compelling and has actual women it. Nic is a douchebag, a modern McG. If he was a woman his career would have been OVER because women get one strike.
As Rob said you take any advantage you can get, and the “any criticism is incel whining” excuse is virtually unassailable today. I’m shocked they made her take the post down.
Anytime a bunch of “bros” brings down a woman-centered anything (in this case, both stars and the writer/director) I figure it’s just the same-old, same-old.
This season is a lot like the first season. To me, it fits perfectly with the “True Detective” brand. I’ll be writing about it myself eventually But I don’t know what’s the big deal about marketing it like this. I mean, it’s not the first show to try to get attention, is it?
Sonny: Why can I not (a) listen to your ISS review or (b) comment on it? Do you make those elections?
I'm rewatching Season 1 of True Detective along with watching Night Country. A lot of other culture writers are writing about the connections between the two seasons, such as the few obvious ones (Travis Kohle as well as the weird spiral mark thing and the inclusion of the same shell company in both seasons). "In Night Country, López is pulling some of her favorite elements from the first season and blending them into a story with its own unique characters, environments, and mysteries..." We are only on Episode 2, and there may be many, many more ties between the two seasons yet to be explained. It's a little early to declare that the two seasons are obviously independent of each other, isn't it? https://www.theringer.com/2024/1/25/24050241/true-detective-night-country-season-1-connections-rust-cohle-carcosa-spiral
As for some of you never saw anything, I find myself really enjoying true detective night country.
I agree on True Detective. After the first episode I thought “This doesn’t feel like True Detective.” It still doesn’t after episode 2 but I’ll keep watching. I want to know what happens and Jodi Foster is wonderful. It’s more like an Icelandic noir program. I don’t think they can remake the magic of Season 1. The script plus the two actors were utter perfection.
Mare of Easttown…please let there be a season 2.
I don’t care what anyone thinks I loved season 2 of True Detective. Yes season 1 was legendary and all time great but Season 3 was also fantastic in every way. The only really controversial season was season 2 and I still loved it.
Haven’t yet seen the beginning of season 4 (Night Country) but I’m super excited for it. Like so much else in our society it seems as though everyone has to be offended when they don’t like a show going in a different direction.
I probably would not have bothered without True Detective in the name. It reminds me a lot of the first season. And that is a complement!
I really don't like the "open ended" series form that tries to keep going season after season. There are exceptions of course but too often a fairly interesting story tries to recapture the light in the bottle season after season only to exhaust the premise and become sillier over time. PBS "Masterpiece Theater" is rife with such clunkers.
I prefer the limited series format with 4 to 8 episodes with a definite arc that's one and done.
I, too, am drawn to "bottle dramas" and loved both "Locke" and "First Time Caller." It is a risky form and requires a will to keep watching until the writers hook is in and leads to a satisfying end. Younger audiences used to short scenes and helter skelter camera movement probably have a hard time staying with them to the end.
Alan Bennett's TV series "Talking Heads" is a master class in the form. Language is the magic sauce and has to drive everything.
I would watch True Detective: Wawa.
"We found a body in the wooder."
Maybe Nic should just enjoy the small mindshare bump of having his EP cred on S4 for no work, and not call attention to the fact that he hasn’t shown the aptitude for television making since striking gold with S1. This feels like a fight Nic needed more than anyone, and sure enough there were people on the internet there to give it to him.
I would absolutely watch True Detective WaWa. Sign me up.
But....True Detective started to suck around the last two episodes of S1 and then the astonishingly dumb and illogical S2 should have tanked the show because it was even stupider than S4 of Fargo. True Detective S3 was boring and totally unsatisfying, with all the clever time jumping hanging on its meager branches like plastic garbage bags after a flash flood. This isn't a name brand show at all. It's more like a study of arrogance and failure akin to the Walking Dead. The new show is compelling and has actual women it. Nic is a douchebag, a modern McG. If he was a woman his career would have been OVER because women get one strike.
As Rob said you take any advantage you can get, and the “any criticism is incel whining” excuse is virtually unassailable today. I’m shocked they made her take the post down.
I am totally calling it True Detective WaWa from now on
ok ok ok, but I would definitely watch “True Detective Wawa”
Anytime a bunch of “bros” brings down a woman-centered anything (in this case, both stars and the writer/director) I figure it’s just the same-old, same-old.
This season is a lot like the first season. To me, it fits perfectly with the “True Detective” brand. I’ll be writing about it myself eventually But I don’t know what’s the big deal about marketing it like this. I mean, it’s not the first show to try to get attention, is it?