Props to Alyssa for suggesting to have Sony's wife sit in for him. I personally would not go see an Eras tour movie but would enjoy hearing the crew talk about it.
I'm less interested in more concert films and far more interested in if some filmmakers might cut out the studios and work directly with theaters. For instance, if this opportunity was offered to George Lucas with the Prequels you better believe he would've done it. He had nothing but contempt for the studios. Along those lines could Francis Ford Coppola doe this with Megalopolis. My dude Frankie Ford paid $120M out of pocket. Could he just go to AMC and make the same deal? I mean, yes, I doubt that Megalopolis will do Taylor Swift business. Still, it will be interesting to watch unfold. https://variety.com/2022/film/news/francis-ford-coppola-funding-120-million-dollars-megalopolis-1235184765/
See, again, this is what I mean when I say she's sui generis: FFC is a huge deal to a very small subset of people. He actually NEEDS the promotional weight of a Universal or a Paramount in a way she clearly doesn't.
I’m with Alyssa too. The Eras Tour was a massive cultural event. Why wouldn’t you review a movie about it?
Oh I know. Because it’s for “little girls.”Sonny’s open contempt for female led entertainment was palpable. We see the stupid action movies, violent fantasy movies & boring sporting events (golf? really?!) with our boyfriends & husbands. But ask
them to join us at Taylor Swift show, a plot driven drama with a female protagonist, a romantic comedy, or - GASP - a musical? Well that’s s bridge to far. That’s girl stuff. The crossover only goes one one way.
The way men demean and dismiss anything women like is condescending & contemptuous.
This conversation made me feel very uncomfortable when I listened to the podcast, particularly after the previous discussions about Barbie, which I think they only agreed to review after it made so much money. Sonny and Peter were dismissive in a way that speaks to their casual sexism. They may not want to recognize it, but I think they should re-examine their prejudices. Joking about it doesn't excuse the fact that entertainment more popular with woman is routinely dismissed, both in society as a whole, and on this podcast. Thank you Alyssa for standing up for what you think should be reviewed.
The recent Bulwark Goes to Hollywood podcast also had a bit of sneering in discussing the popularity of erotic thrillers on so-called "women's" television channels. Just a reminder: there are not two categories of entertainment, "regular" entertainment and "women's" entertainment. It is just entertainment. As critics, you should be willing to review all things. Your prejudices are showing, and the contempt you show for things more appealing to women makes me less likely to listen.
In case no one else noticed, this is the weekend that announced that there is no normal to go back to in the entertainment business. Spectrum/Disney, Swift/AMC, to say nothing of ABBA’s avatar tour, it’s perfectly clear that a whole lot of actual creative thinking needs to happen if there is to be a functional entertainment business. The (let’s do it again because it worked once and use as many people as we can to talk about it at meetings) corporatized model that has become the norm has simply been blown up. I don’t know what comes next, but it’s not going to come out of “compromise”!
Yeah, the Spectrum/ESPN thing is the low-key biggest story out there right now. I'm still trying to find out more about it, but this is the biggest sign yet that linear cable is coming to a crashing halt much sooner than expected.
I'm was an unsuspecting victim this weekend. I took the weekend to go on vacation and off the grid. I tried to watch the Italian Grand Prix and was rewarded with an annoying screen about the pissing contest between the 2.
I'm with Alyssa. I want to hear across the movie aisle Eras Tour review. I think you can have an interesting conversation about what makes a concert movie great. Also, she has done 3 Tour movies and 4 shorter television concerts.
Yeah, the Reputation Tour movie is currently the only one you can watch via streaming. The other two are both available in full on YouTube. They are easy to find if you want to switch up your daughter's Taylor Swift concert viewing habits.
Somewhat related, I think it's interesting that we will also be getting the re-release of Jonathan Demme’s Talking Heads Tour movie this September. We are sort of getting a mini concert movie boom this fall.
See this is another good example of a movie that I'm just not entirely sure how to review, given that I don't particularly care for or about The Talking Heads. I'm just not really a music guy! (Which goes a long way toward explaining why I don't do musicals.)
I think that issue speaks to the question at the heart of the concert movie. I.e., what is the purpose of a concert movie? Is it supposed to be a cinematic experience or a concert experience? I feel like the purpose of the concert movie is to be a cinematic experience. The film should be able to transcend whatever preexisting affinity a person might have for an artist. If the goal is to be a concert experience, I don’t think it has to reach beyond the boundaries of the artist's existing fandom. It just has to capture the feeling of a concert. If it is the latter, is the concert movie even cinema? I think those questions would make reviewing at least one of the upcoming concert movies an interesting episode of across the movie aisle.
I saw Equalizer 3 this weekend and liked it. I agree with the 3 of you that there was a whole subplot with Dakota Fanning that was left on the cutting room floor. (Once I realized that Mare's (of Easttown) ex-husband left Eastern Pennsylvania and being a teacher to join the CIA counterterrorism group, I wanted more!)
The greatest recovery ever--JK Simmons, who overcame being a felonious member of the Aryan Brotherhood (Oz) to being a Police Chief (The Closer)--and all the other characters he played!
Props to Alyssa for suggesting to have Sony's wife sit in for him. I personally would not go see an Eras tour movie but would enjoy hearing the crew talk about it.
I'm less interested in more concert films and far more interested in if some filmmakers might cut out the studios and work directly with theaters. For instance, if this opportunity was offered to George Lucas with the Prequels you better believe he would've done it. He had nothing but contempt for the studios. Along those lines could Francis Ford Coppola doe this with Megalopolis. My dude Frankie Ford paid $120M out of pocket. Could he just go to AMC and make the same deal? I mean, yes, I doubt that Megalopolis will do Taylor Swift business. Still, it will be interesting to watch unfold. https://variety.com/2022/film/news/francis-ford-coppola-funding-120-million-dollars-megalopolis-1235184765/
See, again, this is what I mean when I say she's sui generis: FFC is a huge deal to a very small subset of people. He actually NEEDS the promotional weight of a Universal or a Paramount in a way she clearly doesn't.
Yeah, you’re right. I guess I can see a situation in which nobody will pick up Coppola’s film and he ends up going this route.
I’m with Alyssa too. The Eras Tour was a massive cultural event. Why wouldn’t you review a movie about it?
Oh I know. Because it’s for “little girls.”Sonny’s open contempt for female led entertainment was palpable. We see the stupid action movies, violent fantasy movies & boring sporting events (golf? really?!) with our boyfriends & husbands. But ask
them to join us at Taylor Swift show, a plot driven drama with a female protagonist, a romantic comedy, or - GASP - a musical? Well that’s s bridge to far. That’s girl stuff. The crossover only goes one one way.
The way men demean and dismiss anything women like is condescending & contemptuous.
This conversation made me feel very uncomfortable when I listened to the podcast, particularly after the previous discussions about Barbie, which I think they only agreed to review after it made so much money. Sonny and Peter were dismissive in a way that speaks to their casual sexism. They may not want to recognize it, but I think they should re-examine their prejudices. Joking about it doesn't excuse the fact that entertainment more popular with woman is routinely dismissed, both in society as a whole, and on this podcast. Thank you Alyssa for standing up for what you think should be reviewed.
The recent Bulwark Goes to Hollywood podcast also had a bit of sneering in discussing the popularity of erotic thrillers on so-called "women's" television channels. Just a reminder: there are not two categories of entertainment, "regular" entertainment and "women's" entertainment. It is just entertainment. As critics, you should be willing to review all things. Your prejudices are showing, and the contempt you show for things more appealing to women makes me less likely to listen.
One fact check: we had always planned on doing OPPENHEIMER and then BARBIE, since they were both opening on the same weekend.
The next time we review a golf tournament will be the first!
In case no one else noticed, this is the weekend that announced that there is no normal to go back to in the entertainment business. Spectrum/Disney, Swift/AMC, to say nothing of ABBA’s avatar tour, it’s perfectly clear that a whole lot of actual creative thinking needs to happen if there is to be a functional entertainment business. The (let’s do it again because it worked once and use as many people as we can to talk about it at meetings) corporatized model that has become the norm has simply been blown up. I don’t know what comes next, but it’s not going to come out of “compromise”!
Yeah, the Spectrum/ESPN thing is the low-key biggest story out there right now. I'm still trying to find out more about it, but this is the biggest sign yet that linear cable is coming to a crashing halt much sooner than expected.
I'm was an unsuspecting victim this weekend. I took the weekend to go on vacation and off the grid. I tried to watch the Italian Grand Prix and was rewarded with an annoying screen about the pissing contest between the 2.
I'm with Alyssa. I want to hear across the movie aisle Eras Tour review. I think you can have an interesting conversation about what makes a concert movie great. Also, she has done 3 Tour movies and 4 shorter television concerts.
My daughter watches the ones on Netflix on a loop, it feels like.
Yeah, the Reputation Tour movie is currently the only one you can watch via streaming. The other two are both available in full on YouTube. They are easy to find if you want to switch up your daughter's Taylor Swift concert viewing habits.
Somewhat related, I think it's interesting that we will also be getting the re-release of Jonathan Demme’s Talking Heads Tour movie this September. We are sort of getting a mini concert movie boom this fall.
See this is another good example of a movie that I'm just not entirely sure how to review, given that I don't particularly care for or about The Talking Heads. I'm just not really a music guy! (Which goes a long way toward explaining why I don't do musicals.)
I think that issue speaks to the question at the heart of the concert movie. I.e., what is the purpose of a concert movie? Is it supposed to be a cinematic experience or a concert experience? I feel like the purpose of the concert movie is to be a cinematic experience. The film should be able to transcend whatever preexisting affinity a person might have for an artist. If the goal is to be a concert experience, I don’t think it has to reach beyond the boundaries of the artist's existing fandom. It just has to capture the feeling of a concert. If it is the latter, is the concert movie even cinema? I think those questions would make reviewing at least one of the upcoming concert movies an interesting episode of across the movie aisle.
I saw Equalizer 3 this weekend and liked it. I agree with the 3 of you that there was a whole subplot with Dakota Fanning that was left on the cutting room floor. (Once I realized that Mare's (of Easttown) ex-husband left Eastern Pennsylvania and being a teacher to join the CIA counterterrorism group, I wanted more!)
Not-Jim from The Office!
The greatest recovery ever--JK Simmons, who overcame being a felonious member of the Aryan Brotherhood (Oz) to being a Police Chief (The Closer)--and all the other characters he played!
Something I have wondered for awhile are these movies the reason we can't stream the 80s Equalizer series anywhere?
Maaaaybe but I’d guess it actually has more to do with the Equalizer series currently running on CBS?
It predates that series, which I totally forgot exists... Guess that is another reason physical media is king.