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Douglas Peterson's avatar

I know, I know, I know, .... but the Gulf states are not serious players in this. They are as decadent and narcissistic as Americans have become. Look at the tourist ads for Dubai and you'll see where their interests lie. It's not in helping the Palestinians. But they do have an interest in helping Israel if their help would provide more transactional gains for their sheikdoms.

Can we find any links to unite (now a meaningless word) any of the parties locked in this path towards mutual destruction? Your answer is clear, and I thank you for it, even if I'm still holding out for a future (way beyond my demise) without these conflicts.

Otherwise, we (meaning all humankind) will kill one another one way or another, directly or indirectly, actively or passively.

Perhaps the "good night" is coming no matter how much we "rage, rage against the dying of the light."

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Travis's avatar

The narcissism in the West of thinking that they/we can somehow make Palestinians no longer violently anti-Semitic is another kind of narcissism. That's the kind of narcissism we suffer from. Thinking we're so special that we can make other groups of peoples with decades of blood feuds somehow think differently using our logic, values, and principles. Some problems literally just have to bleed themselves out on a long enough timeline until one side decides they've had enough. That's how I see this conflict ending, and it's not likely to get to that point within my lifetime, but it won't stop generations of western narcissists into thinking they know enough to overcome that sort of thing with western values and logic. You can't reason people out of a thing they didn't reason themselves into. Only time combined with sustained loss can cripple culturally emotional motivations, and it usually takes a good while of both.

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Douglas Peterson's avatar

I see American narcissism much more broadly and deeply than you describe here, but I agree that our hubris regarding involvement in foreign affairs has been part of it.

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