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Welcome back!

Now on to the comments. It's not surprising that the January 6th stuff is irrelevant to a populace who thinks we're in a recession. The truth is, voters are not persuadable in the sense that voters care about anything resembling a coherent worldview. That's not how people are. Most voters decide who to vote for in the final month of an election. Which means everything before and after is just noise.

The problematic reality is that for all the talk of 'persuadable' voters, there really aren't any. At least, not enough to swing elections. Independents are growing in number, but not ideologically. What's happening is that more people are bucking the label of a party in favor of saying they're independent, while voting along party lines all the time. Because a true 'independent' would have to lack anything resembling a coherent worldview politically in order to swing between such ideologically opposed parties.

What this means is that ultimately, a lot of energy is expended on both sides over voters they want to exist but don't. Voters who are 'independent' or 'swing' tend to be those whose entire political process is to look up in a haze, make a gut check about how they feel, and then vote based on that. And because American voters are always, always unhappy, that usually means they vote against the incumbent. It doesn't matter if it's 2006 or 2010 or 2014 or 2018. Voters tend to always be unhappy.

Ultimately, that's what makes a lot of highly educated and media types really unhappy: that most voters don't really care about democracy and don't see a difference between the parties. To people who have the time and energy to actually pay attention, it seems insane that voters look at Trump and Biden, or Pelosi and MTG and go 'basically the same' but they do. And that's a problem for political types, and not the voters. Because just like in business, the customer is always right, especially when they're wrong.

I think one other thing we need to talk about is that for Americans, 'Fascist' conjures up Nazis. But not all fascists are nazis. In fact most of them aren't. The Imperial Japanese in WW2, Franco's Spain, Mussolini, Peron, ect were all fascists. And the current American right is absolutely fascist in the same vein. They're not nazis. But they are absolutely fascists. They are blood and soil nationalists who fetishize violence against political others and wish to establish a stronger volk over the country. You have Claremont and Lincoln fellows talking about Americans as not being Americans. At some point you need to call a spade a spade.

The fact that so many people are worried about what to call the thing, and not the thing itself, is part of the issue. The other part is that not a lot of people are as uncomfortable as we might hope with this sort of thing.

The final bit is that, as I and other people have been saying for a long time, Trump is not the movement. He is the leader of it, but he was a figurehead who could channel the movement. The crazy existed before him, and it will exist after him. The danger was never Trump himself, who was a buffoon at the best of times, but that the people around him would be dangerous and capable enough to engineer success through him. The real danger is whoever takes up the mantle after him. Because Trump was a grifter himself, and he saw the movement as a way to raise his own profile. But true believers want their crazy straight. And they'll go further than Trump would because they won't care about their own self interest in the same way. Revolutionaries aren't concerned about their brand.

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Lewis Grotelueschen's avatar

"Warning: I'm Back" C'mon Charlie, this is the most welcome news yet of the new year!

On whether the Jan. 6 commission will have an effect on the 2022 midterms: Surely Liz Cheney speaks for some small percentage of people on the right. Democrats need to be messaging that they are the party of constitutional governance and Republicans are destroyers of same.

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