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Lol, Cathy should take a step back from this debate. She was thoroughly taken to school after claiming that slaves weren’t sought for specific skills. In the span of two tweets, she went from calling the claim to ridiculous to saying “yes, slaves were in fact sought for skills.” Only with slavery can we be paternalistic and claim that slaves learned skills that helped them post slavery. It’s adjacent to neo-Confederate apologia that slaves were better off being slaves than being free in Africa as though there weren’t entire societies that existed on the continent before the Europeans arrived. Hell more than half the examples the “experts” from Florida gave after the backlash started were never slaves! Slavery existed for 250 years before emancipation, the idea that a few slaves learned skills that they capitalized on after the Civil War is nothing more than a thinly veiled attempt to assuage the guilt we feel today about the practice. Not only this, they are making that particular point a BENCHMARK. As in, it has to be taught. How absurd.

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A few things. One, at this point it's fairly obvious that the last person who should be talking about social issues and cultural debates is Cathy. I know she's smart about a lot of things, but the reflex to go 'actually the left was overreacting' to things that the Bulwark's JVL already deconstructed for being insane is kind of wild. Like, any sane person can probably agree that anything that isn't 'slavery was morally wrong on every level' has no business being taught to children. This isn't a Song of the South situation where they're trying to portray Reconstruction as a golden era, we're talking the literal era of slavery where men, women, and children were kept in bondage and sold like animals. There's no both sides here. If 'the left' is overreacting in the sense that they are saying 'we shouldn't both sides slavery' I think that's defensible. And it's more defensible for Harris, a literal black woman, to take some offense to people whitewashing her own ancestor's history!

But enough on that. Let's talk Hunter briefly. The Hunter Biden 'story' is that Hunter did a bad thing. Okay! But you know what else? The system is working! The president is not leaning on judges and officials to let him go! The system is literally working as intended. Do you think the Trump kids would be brought up on charges the same way under a GOP president? I don't. And so as far as I can tell, the story is 'the system is working as intended.'

As for our gerontocracy, this really is the core problem in our society. Not simply in politics either, it's everywhere, and a lot of this is baby boomers not wanting to move aside or plan for the future, the latter part could sum up their entire forty years in the spotlight since they powered Reagan to office on a plan of 'eh, we'll lower taxes for us and cut benefits and pay for it later or something.' At the moment, we have presidents, congressmen, and supreme court justices that are expected to make laws about everything from internet privacy to crypto to AI, and most of them cannot navigate a smartphone.

In the 90s, they laughed as their parents couldn't handle 'the computers' and that's now them. But it infects everything else too. For example, the reason participation in trades has declined is not that there is a lack of people to do those jobs, but because the older people who are retiring are not training new people because it's to expensive and bothersome to do so. I learned this firsthand from a family friend who's repaired elevators for his entire life; they'd love to have new people, but the companies that employ them would rather rely on aging talent than train new talent to replace them. The same was true for my brother in law's father, who was an electrician during his life.

One of the problems in our world is that people live too long now. That's not to say that living is bad, we're not talking a Logan's Run situation. I mean that our institutions and the pace of change do not adhere to our idea that age should be the signifier of wisdom. The main reason we have a problem with the Supreme Court, for example, is that justices live so long that you can lock in a majority for a lifetime by appointing someone in their thirties, who will then likely be in that position your entire natural life. The average length of time a justice serves has been extended to the point where we should really ask why we don't have both higher minimum age requirements and lower maximum age requirements. That's not a term limit idea; it's simply a matter that when it comes to law, you probably should be at least fifty, and no older than seventy, in order to have some idea what's going on.

And Congress has turned into a work program for people who should be retired. In no other industry would you expect people over sixty five to be active participants in the workforce, especially not when talking about modern questions. You wouldn't have asked someone who was seventy in the 40s how to build a plane better, so I don't know why we think that the ideal time for law making is for people whose golden years were thirty years prior.

McConnell is simply the most recent example. We've seen this a lot lately. RBG and Feinstein on the left come to mind. We simply cannot accept this notion that human beings are capable forever, when they are not.

You mention men not in the workforce, but perhaps the best way to get them into the workforce is not to make life harder for them, but to push older people out of the workforce so that the demand for labor is higher. The reality is, we're in this situation because we make retiring too hard, we make getting into jobs too hard, and we've allowed much of our nation to atrophy because the people in charge won't move aside and are choosing to die in their positions.

Speaking as someone who lost his grandmother a year ago and watched her slowly deteriorate mentally and physically over time, I can say that I would not trust someone in McConnell's condition to do his own taxes or live on his own, and yet we are all expected to be nice and not say what is clearly obvious, that the man should retire and we should not be pretending it is normal or ethical to allow him to keep serving. Ditto for people like Feinstein. At some point, allowing the facade to remain is elder abuse.

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