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A couple things stick out to me. First, that we cannot act based around what conservative media is going to say. The reason is simple: there could have been no protests at all, or they could have been following all the rules, and the right wing media would still be talking about how dangerous and violent the antifa democrat party is. We know this, because they've done it with everything from caravans of migrants that don't exist to crime that is far lower than it was twenty years ago, but it still somehow a demonstration that the world is ending.

Second, while I don't believe in mob violence, reality is that it likely does not have an effect on the end result. Why do I say this? Because violence by conservative mobs has been a hallmark of conservative activism; whether it's throwing fetuses at people going to planned parenthood or people protesting at soldier's funerals claiming that 'god hates gays' it's been fairly normalized for decades. To go further, the right showing up to places armed, vandalizing things like black lives matter iconography, even vandalizing a church, has occurred, and it has not turned the public against the party that supports these things. And oh, an anti-abortion activist bombed the olympics, lest we forget. Again, didn't matter.

What has happened, and what I do not entirely grasp, is that the actions of the GOP electorate does not seem to get conflated with the GOP as a party, despite the fact that they are extremely close, while the actions of the Democratic electorate are conflated with the Democratic party, despite the fact that they are not close at all. The GOP has a very close relationship between its media, it's politicians, and it's base. The democratic party does not have that relationship. And yet, people protesting for abortion or anything else are immediately conflated with the party itself.

I mean sure, the GOP is about to ban a right that has been in place for half a century, and criminalize wide swaths of readily available birth control, and usher in a two-tiered set of rights that the US has not seen since Dred Scott was decided, but the real thing we all need to worry about is whether or not some protestors are being polite. It seems to me that the position of 'people should be allowed to make life unlivable for some people, but also be free from the blowback that produces' is untenable.

We possess, as a people, the right to assemble. And if we are more concerned with people protesting than the piles of dead women that will be made after Roe is struck down, then we are focused on the wrong things. The fact that the right actively supports armed insurrection when it benefits them is not a bug, it's a feature. And they want to make it seem, deliberately, that when they do it, it's fine. Overthrowing the government in service to theocracy is fine, but protesting outside a justice's house is somehow over the line.

At some point, media figures need to decide if they can actually report on reality, which is that the democratic party and the democratic base are not the same group, and the GOP party and the GOP base are.

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Charlie,

I live in Tom Rice's district. I admire the things he's saying, but he's not going to win this primary.

I regularly see signs calling him, quite literally, a traitor and saying that we need to fight communism (because we've obviously become a communist nation under Biden).

The other day I saw someone who was driving around a relatively new pickup truck. It couldn't have been more than 3-5 years old. Hell, it might have been newer than that. It looked brand new. This truck had huge bold text saying "Let's Go Brandon" on the left side, right side, and back end of the truck. It might have been on the front too, but I couldn't get a good look from that angle.

Imagine spending tens of thousands of dollars on a new vehicle and then using it as a way to tell complete strangers, in no uncertain terms, that you're an asshole. These people cannot be reasoned with and are in no mood to negotiate.

Everyone needs to understand that this is what the Republican party is now. There is no going back. It's been said before, but not nearly enough. Too many people still believe the party is going to snap back. It won't. It's 100% Trump's party now, from top to bottom. If you think your GOP member of congress is different, you're probably wrong and if you're not, I have no doubt they'll be facing a primary very soon.

It's time we all accept that the party of Reagan and Bush is dead. Trump is the party's present and future.

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