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Angie's avatar

PS: David Frum in the Alantic has a good piece about why we shouldn't do this

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Migs's avatar

Oh in this media environment it will be 7 weeks of тАЬDems in disarray.тАЭ Knowing Dems it will be protests outside and dysfunction inside.

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Angie's avatar

Yeah, you know how they always use that herding cats thing, I just can't imagine this going well if they go that way

Plus, I am concerned about the pro Hamas people causing more problems

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Migs's avatar

ThatтАЩs the тАЬprotests outsideтАЭ I was talking about. Our shitshow

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Kim M Murphy's avatar

And how resplendent that it would be in Chicago. Apparently none of the pundits was alive for 1968.

IтАЩll stick with Biden, thanks.

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Migs's avatar

Oh Kim. IтАЩm drowning in the political bs.

IтАЩm going to rant here. I love Biden. I think he is great. IтАЩm not stupid either. Maybe he isnтАЩt the one but (1) I have no control what he does so why bs about it and (2) I donтАЩt think itтАЩs helpful to pile on.

However, IтАЩm going to lose my mind if I have to hear about a fucking brokered convention. If you want Biden to drop out (not you) then explain why Kamala is better. Please please please leave the brokered convention out of it.

I struggle with what to do because voters are fucking idiots. I want someone to convince me that Kamala is better. I hear their arguments. She will be better at prosecuting the case against Trump. AGREE!!! I just donтАЩt know if it matters. IтАЩve met a ton of stupid people. They know what Trump is. Not sure that is what is needed but I could be wrong.

My problem is the choices are: an old, white dude who may or may not fall asleep versus a thoughtful, smart, vigorous black woman. I think American would vote for the former over the latter. God I hope IтАЩm wrong.

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Kim M Murphy's avatar

Kamala is an excellent speaker and a fine and smart woman.

SheтАЩs also the black and Asian daughter of people who were not citizens when she was born.

Debate Topic # 1: Citizenship and birtherism.

She is black and Asian.

Debate Topic #2: Racist attacks.

She is a woman.

Debate Topic #3: Misogyny and angry black woman tropes.

She married a Jew.

Debate Topic #4: Antisemitism

She had a relationship openly with a married man who is still a married man who unfortunately is also still alive and never shuts up.

Debate Topic #5: IтАЩll leave it to your imagination.

These wouldnтАЩt be the listed topics, of course, but it wonтАЩt matter. The moderators wonтАЩt be able to put the train back on the tracks, nor will they try very hard.

Additionally, no one can fight a firehose of bullshit, and I say that as a trial lawyer. When I had a psycho on the stand order was often maintained only because of the presence of a judge with arrest powers and the presence of deputies.

Our VP might handle Trump more successfully than Biden did but it will still be a bloodbath. Remember Hillary. She beat him every debate and all anyone remembers him hulking around behind her.

The only good part would be the VP turning around to say, тАЬGet your fat ass back to your podium, Donald.тАЭ

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Migs's avatar

I know. I struggle.

It would make me feel great if Kamala said тАЬGet your fat ass back to your podium, Donald.тАЭ However I think it would hurt her. Welcome to America

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