Exactly. This is so frustrating. Until Joe says he’s done, he’s the nominee. And the public pressure campaign isn’t only hardening his resolve, it’s telling swing voters that both candidates are incapable so it doesn’t matter who wins. When it couldn’t matter more in 2024. The so called pro democracy “former” Republicans and wishy washy Dems will be responsible for fascism coming to America.
Exactly. This is so frustrating. Until Joe says he’s done, he’s the nominee. And the public pressure campaign isn’t only hardening his resolve, it’s telling swing voters that both candidates are incapable so it doesn’t matter who wins. When it couldn’t matter more in 2024. The so called pro democracy “former” Republicans and wishy washy Dems will be responsible for fascism coming to America.
Beg to differ. Biden did more damage to his own electability with his debate performance than any of his nay sayers. He flat out proved their point and Trump's messaging in front of a national TV audience.
And nothing since—not his 20 plus appearances, not the NATO summit nor his speech, not the press conference or sit down with ABC can negate that one event. This is all about personal bias. The media has long disliked Joe and were thrilled when he did poorly in Iowa and NH. They were shocked when Clyburn endorsed him and flabbergasted when he won state after state, uniting the Dem party. A lot of voters who wanted Bernie or anyone else held their noses and voted for him and obviously still don’t like him.
Since the withdrawal from Afghanistan, it’s been open season on Joe for the media, which is why every bit of good news is followed by “why that’s bad for Biden” and why Americans believe we are living in the upside down where inflation is high, crime is up, and wages are down. It’s the same as more than 70 percent of Americans believing Saddam Hussein was involved in 9/11 before the Iraq War. Obviously nothing will satisfy the press and pundits, so the best thing is to tune them out and work hard to get the Dems elected.
I have heard JVL say that running Biden wouldn't be as big a deal if the opponent was someone like Romney or Haley so I hear about the threat all the time on here. That is why the pro democracy side should not also run a declining old man. Mean demented crazy vs old experienced crazy is risky.
I don't actually believe is crazy; I was distilling the issue down to a sentence from perspective of casual voter
I believe Joe is old and he's been a rambling gaffe machine his whole career. Mixing up Harris and Trump is not very far outside his norm versus Trump talking about electric boats sinking due to heavy motors or injecting bleach to cure COVID. The post debate challenge is those gaffes are perceived differently and he cannot get back on track from his own tangents.
He can govern for another 6 months no problem but he can't campaign.
Exactly. This is so frustrating. Until Joe says he’s done, he’s the nominee. And the public pressure campaign isn’t only hardening his resolve, it’s telling swing voters that both candidates are incapable so it doesn’t matter who wins. When it couldn’t matter more in 2024. The so called pro democracy “former” Republicans and wishy washy Dems will be responsible for fascism coming to America.
Beg to differ. Biden did more damage to his own electability with his debate performance than any of his nay sayers. He flat out proved their point and Trump's messaging in front of a national TV audience.
And nothing since—not his 20 plus appearances, not the NATO summit nor his speech, not the press conference or sit down with ABC can negate that one event. This is all about personal bias. The media has long disliked Joe and were thrilled when he did poorly in Iowa and NH. They were shocked when Clyburn endorsed him and flabbergasted when he won state after state, uniting the Dem party. A lot of voters who wanted Bernie or anyone else held their noses and voted for him and obviously still don’t like him.
Since the withdrawal from Afghanistan, it’s been open season on Joe for the media, which is why every bit of good news is followed by “why that’s bad for Biden” and why Americans believe we are living in the upside down where inflation is high, crime is up, and wages are down. It’s the same as more than 70 percent of Americans believing Saddam Hussein was involved in 9/11 before the Iraq War. Obviously nothing will satisfy the press and pundits, so the best thing is to tune them out and work hard to get the Dems elected.
I have heard JVL say that running Biden wouldn't be as big a deal if the opponent was someone like Romney or Haley so I hear about the threat all the time on here. That is why the pro democracy side should not also run a declining old man. Mean demented crazy vs old experienced crazy is risky.
I don’t see evidence that Biden is crazy. What do you think suggests that conclusion?
I don't actually believe is crazy; I was distilling the issue down to a sentence from perspective of casual voter
I believe Joe is old and he's been a rambling gaffe machine his whole career. Mixing up Harris and Trump is not very far outside his norm versus Trump talking about electric boats sinking due to heavy motors or injecting bleach to cure COVID. The post debate challenge is those gaffes are perceived differently and he cannot get back on track from his own tangents.
He can govern for another 6 months no problem but he can't campaign.
Agree.
"Until Joe says he's done" chills me frankly. The U.S. President is only and always elected to a term.
Too much deference is being given to his incumbency.