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P J Johnston's avatar

Would like to see some "new blood" in the Democratic Party, I feel that Kamala should have done better than she did given the short amount of time she campaigned. But it was very short and she also should have tried to target more people than she did. She reiterated "middle class" over and over again, but the "middle class" actually isn't the class that needs cheaper food, etc. I also blame the "other" side for targeting the people that just wanted the price of eggs to drop and then turned around and screwed them royally. This is why many are saying they wished they could have a do over but the damage has been done and we have to regroup and get back to fixing things in the future!

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Nancy Drew's avatar

Wait! I am a Democrat (thanks, Reagan) and believe there are many things we need to do better. But we lost the last Presidential election by 1.5%. Let’s not go crazy here. Trump was massively aided by the oligarchs that run our mass media. DEI & Trans people are not killing us. Actions taken by the new Trump administration will. I still would vote for Biden dead than Trump alive.

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Lily who reads The Bulwark's avatar

Oh my god, leave Biden, Harris, and Walz alone! When they stayed quiet, there was so much indignant complaining about why they weren’t speaking up despite being in positions of power and influence. So they spoke up. And somehow an article like this still exists.

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Barry McMillion Sr.'s avatar

When will they ever learn? Same old, same old, is, well "same old shit". I feel like I am stuck in a perpetual political hell of Bill Murrays movie Ground Hog Day with all of these "operatives" who now claim to have the answer. That right there is just a part of the problem which stops the Democratic Party, my party, from moving forward. I am so sick and tired of listening to people, who in my opinion, are so far off base from political reality as to where the country now is in regard to politics that Republicans will remain in control. Please, God Help Us!! Barry McMillion

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Suzanne Smith's avatar

This was a very frustrating interview. It makes me want to leave the Democratic Party. They are so behind in the modern world. Biden might have been sane but he left too late. They let it go on too long. Flaherty couldn’t let the old days of campaigning go.

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Reagan Bush Republican's avatar

Let's get something straight here. Kamala Harris is the albatross. Biden is just a dead man walking. Harris has zero future in the party on a national level. She ran the best, safest campaign possible, and still lost every swing state to a man everybody knows is a moronic POS (even his supporters know it). Most telling, she lost worse than Dem Senate candidates in every swing state, which means she is more unpopular than the Democrat brand. That is really saying something. She cannot be rehabilitated, because she never demonstrated anything to rehabilitate. Prior to July 2024, she was even less popular than Joe Biden, and thought to be even more incompetent. She was framed during her vice presidency as "a cringy, vapid, inarticulate, incompetent DEI hire". She will never escape that frame. EVER. She must go away. Now.

As for Biden rehabilitation? That may be impossible, but it's worth the effort. The real historical lessons here are Jimmy Carter and George W. Bush. Both were good and honorable men who did a lot of good things, and against whom fate intervened with some pretty harsh circumstances. Both left office as political pariahs, and both pretty much went away quietly and allowed the narrative of the end of their presidencies to be written by the enemy. It certainly didn't help that they were followed by Reagan and Obama, the two most popular presidents since FDR, but quietly letting history decide was disastrous. The GOP successfully ran against Jimmy Carter for 12 years, and Bush's diminished standing, and perceived weak response to it, affected his reputation within the GOP, which directly lead to the rise of MAGA and Trump.

Biden's "presidency" cannot be defended - you can't defend 9% inflation, doubling of interest rates, distortion of the labor markets, supply chain chaos, and rampant foreign policy wildfires. Was all that his fault? No. But the buck stops at the president. Like Carter and Bush, the bad shit happened on his watch, and he couldn't fix it.

But, "Biden The President" can be defended. He was a good man trying his best. His inflationary spending was done to try to help the recovery from covid and avoid an Obama-slow-recovery. For the most part, he avoided recession, and unemployment never really rose on his watch. He restored some level of normalcy to the White House, at least until his mental faculties declined to the point he was probably not running anything. There is potential for sympathy there. But first we must stop the lying and exaggerating, and trying to portray the Biden era as a great presidency. Admit what everyone already believes, it wasn't a good presidency, but rehabilitate "a good man" who despite a valiant effort, simply could not overcome his own physical frailty. That might be a possible rehabilitation, avoid the worst of what followed Carter and Bush.

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nks's avatar

Let the dem party reform and Biden alumni contribute thought from the back seat. This emergent party has lots of material from a felon- run admin peppered with nazis, major incompetence, hostile and cruel boot lickers and twisted supremacist christianity. Let’s configure the online messaging- keep it succinct and loud like a truck horn💪

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Paul Gowen's avatar

Lauren, bless your heart. I'm not the slightest bit interested in what f-ing Dean Phillips has to say about, well, anything. There's a reason he's a "former". You couldn't find anyone relevant to talk to?

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Joy Crouch's avatar

I've scaned through some of these comments. I think the one person that had knowledge of Biden's decline but failed to speak was his wife. She should have convinced him and his campaign team to have him step down before the convention. I believe a candidate selected at the convention with a nornal time to campaign would have won the election. If that candidate was Kamel I believe she would now be president.

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Julie Sirrs's avatar

Objectively, Biden was one of the most successful presidents in a generation if not more. Yes, he was old and that was a problem for his reelection, but to pretend he was incapacitated - especially in contrast to Trump (!) - is disingenuous. Harris' advisors who failed to prepare her for the simple question of "Are you better off now than 4 years ago" was political malpractice, and they are the ones who should be in the wilderness, not Biden's advisors.

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Danielle's avatar

Biden doing anything but enjoying his grandchildren is a waste of everyone's time. Paint like W or do good deeds like Carter did but don't do anything in the political realm -- I was a supporter for the first 2 years -- but his job was to get rid of Trump. At first he succeeded but then failed miserably. Should have fired Merrick Garland when he didn't indict right away and get someone who wouldn't sit on their hands for 2 years. Did a horrible job with the Israeli Palestinian conflict worse with running again and needs to fade into the sunset and do no more harm.

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Linda Davis's avatar

I became an Independent years ago due to the Dems total lack of awareness and inability to fight for We the People. It is feeling more and more like Dems and GOPers are co-conspirators in this collapse of American Democracy. I can not get the image of dumpt and Obama yucking it up at Jimmy Carter's funeral

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PR STILL UNIVERSAL's avatar

that’s what we need. a reminder of how dems wanted to elect a cognitively declining dude until it was too late.

biden’s role in this mess is undeniable. and those encouraging it stretch the dems credibility at a critical time.

go home joe. and jill feel free to disappear yourself.

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Dilio Mariotti's avatar

Some may consider Biden an albatross, but his vast political experience in governing (not campaigning) produced an economy reminiscent of the "happy days are here again" years.

Disappointments always tempt us to look for scapegoats, even though many of us could plead guilty. Remember, unlike the Tangerine Turd, we Democrats are able to admit mistakes, and learn from them. Harris/Walz ran an excellent campaign against the odds—and almost made it. I don't know whom to blame for the 7 million voters who voted for Joe Biden in 2020 and didn't vote for anybody in 2024. Trump's vote margin didn't increase by that much.

I think we Democrats need to remind ourselves that we have always bragged about our "big tent" that let's everybody in. That has never been easy to do, but when it is done, it has always been good. Now, we need to let each other in once again. Difficulty never stopped us before and it won't now. And our common purpose is greater than it has ever been: for the first time since 1860 the future of our Republic and the rule of law are seriously at stake. There are no intra-party differences that are more important than this.

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Victoria Brown's avatar

I don't think anyone from

the Biden administration,

including his staff or

aides, should be looking

to influence the

democratic party. It's

having a hard enough

time getting its act

together. Everyone's

entitled to their opinion

and that's all these

priors have. It's

imperative, IMO 😁,

Dems need to move on

and forward; new,

younger blood is needed

in the party.

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Anthony Pearsall's avatar

Kalyn Free claiming that she should be a DNC vice-chair because of a technical violation of the DNC's cumbersome and ridiculous, parody-worthy, DEI rules for officers, would be my reason for keeping the obnoxious David Hogg in the job.

So sick and tired of identity politics.

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